Saunders speaks!

[Deberg_1990]

Its not much...but he did say a few things publically:

"It was disappointing," Saunders said. "That would have been a wonderful organization and a wonderful thing. [Chiefs President] Carl Peterson chose the coach that he felt was best for him and the organization at that time, and I understand that."

Saunders wouldn't comment when asked about reports that Peterson had once promised him the Chiefs job.

"I am just very grateful that I right now have the chance to do this with the Washington Redskins, and that is where I am looking," Saunders said."


Full story here:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2301861

[Rogcop_3121]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

knowing the luck of KC sports history....Im sure The Redskins will win the Super Bowl with a Saunders led offense sometime in the next 2-3 years...

The Redskins already have a talented offense, with Cooley, Postis and Moss. They are in dire need of a sturdy QB though. Saunders should be able to make this offenseput up some numbers.

[DaWolf]

Originally Posted by Taco John

Nice trick. I never said anybody can do what you do. I said anybody could have success running the ball behind hall of fame linemen. There's more to your offense than your running game. In fact, your offense is pretty damned balanced between the passing game and the rushing game. Your team averages 31.7 Passing Attempts per game this past year. You attempted 32.5 rushing attempts per game.

It's no skin off my back that you guys want to minimize the impact that Saunders had on your offense.

As opposed to you trying to now maximize the impact he had? According to you don't we have a loser QB running our offense? Yet now you choose to praise our pasing attack?

People fail to realize that our offense was more than the offensive coordinator. Just because an offense is successful doesn't mean a guy has the skills to be a head coach or even the skills to succeed elsewhere in the same capacity with different personnel.

Give Al Saunders credit. He took the players and called plays that managed to produce yards and points. That's what you want. But others contribue to that success, mainly the players, and also the assistant coaches. Look at Mike Mularkey, he went to Buffalo and they had crap offenses under him, while Whisenut takes over in Pittsburgh and now is being hailed as a genius himself. Look at Hermerdinger, who did pretty well in Tennessee but lacked the personnel to do it in NY. Ernie Zampese used to be called a master but his offenses in the end there a few years ago in Dallas was pathetic.

Our offense is built around our running game and our pass protection. If we don't have those, we suck. You can say the same for most teams. So yeah, it's about the linemen in both aspects, because anyone can call a good game with a good OL and good personnel running it. You even admit that in your post before this ("I think that any coordinator at this level could have a lot of success if they were blessed with Roaf."). For all we know, Mike Solari may be a better coordinator than Al Saunders. I mean this supposed genius Al Saunders was a position coach since getting fired from the Chargers in the 80's before anyone gave him a shot at being an OC. So I don't understand much of the reaction. Sometimes change is good.

And TJ, it's not like we just straight up block and run it at you. There is a whole blocking scheme we use which stresses the chip blocking method Solari is so good at teaching. So to try to minimize the complexity of our running attack by saying it's nothing but running it behind Roaf is ludicrous...

[MeaTy The Pimp]

Originally Posted by DaWolf

And TJ, it's not like we just straight up block and run it at you. There is a whole blocking scheme we use which stresses the chip blocking method Solari is so good at teaching. So to try to minimize the complexity of our running attack by saying it's nothing but running it behind Roaf is ludicrous...

I am not trying to take TJ's side here, but if my memory serves me correctly, we DID lose Raof for a few games last year, and our running game suffered a bit.

[bkkcoh]

Originally Posted by Rogcop_3121

The Redskins already have a talented offense, with Cooley, Postis and Moss. They are in dire need of a sturdy QB though. Saunders should be able to make this offenseput up some numbers.

it did a lot of good for us, but we didn't have the skins defense... if we would have had that. we may have been playing next week-end...

[King_Chief_Fan]

Originally Posted by Taco John

Nice trick. I never said anybody can do what you do. I said anybody could have success running the ball behind hall of fame linemen. There's more to your offense than your running game. In fact, your offense is pretty damned balanced between the passing game and the rushing game. Your team averages 31.7 Passing Attempts per game this past year. You attempted 32.5 rushing attempts per game.

It's no skin off my back that you guys want to minimize the impact that Saunders had on your offense.

Let's talk about the impact of Kubiak on the Denver offense.

What will change with the Denver O?

[htismaqe]

Wow, that was an excellent backpedal by Taco.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

I don't think it's a coincidence either.

Al was great here.

However, there is something wrong with him obviously. There is something that fans will never know about Al that GM's and other teams do.

The Rams hired an OC that wasn't anything special. That's a team and organization that he's tremendously familiar with, but they didn't want him.

People can bag on Carl for not hiring him all they want, but other teams passed too.

There's just something that doesn't jive with Saunders. He seems like a nice guy who has produced.

But he doesn't get a chance.

That's not a coincidence.

Hell, it even took him a long time to get a coordinator's job.

Exactly how I feel.

[morphius]

Of course Saunder said in some interview that he also wasn't sure he was up to all the duties that a HC would have to deal with, like dealing with FA's and all the diff teams out there, blah, blah, blah. Which I found a very odd thing to say for a guy who was interviewing for HC jobs around the country.

[KCTitus]

Originally Posted by Taco John

I don't think it takes a genius to run the ball to the left, using Willie Roaf as the axis of your running game. I think that any coordinator at this level could have a lot of success if they were blessed with Roaf.

That explains the offensive juggernaut that was the New Orleans Saints prior to Roaf's departure.

[Extra Point]

The Oakland job wouldn't have worked. Nick Athan reported that Davis offered Saunders a nickel if he picked up and brought in the newspaper on the way his office that morning.

[Reaper16]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

knowing the luck of KC sports history....Im sure The Redskins will win the Super Bowl with a Saunders led offense sometime in the next 2-3 years...

With the defense they have and playing in the NFC, I fully expect that.

[FringeNC]

Originally Posted by doomy3

Not arguing that, but out of TEN new coaches, we cot the best.

Rightly or wrongly, there are millions of Jets' fans laughing at that statement. Carl Peterson evidently believed he was the best out there, but other teams did not. No other team offered compensation to the Jets to hire Herm Edwards.

Maybe Carl is just smarter than all the other GMs......

Herm might turn out well, but just to assert that he was the best available is questionable at best.

[FringeNC]

Originally Posted by DaWolf

As opposed to you trying to now maximize the impact he had? According to you don't we have a loser QB running our offense? Yet now you choose to praise our pasing attack?

People fail to realize that our offense was more than the offensive coordinator. Just because an offense is successful doesn't mean a guy has the skills to be a head coach or even the skills to succeed elsewhere in the same capacity with different personnel.

Give Al Saunders credit. He took the players and called plays that managed to produce yards and points. That's what you want. But others contribue to that success, mainly the players, and also the assistant coaches. Look at Mike Mularkey, he went to Buffalo and they had crap offenses under him, while Whisenut takes over in Pittsburgh and now is being hailed as a genius himself. Look at Hermerdinger, who did pretty well in Tennessee but lacked the personnel to do it in NY. Ernie Zampese used to be called a master but his offenses in the end there a few years ago in Dallas was pathetic.

Our offense is built around our running game and our pass protection. If we don't have those, we suck. You can say the same for most teams. So yeah, it's about the linemen in both aspects, because anyone can call a good game with a good OL and good personnel running it. You even admit that in your post before this ("I think that any coordinator at this level could have a lot of success if they were blessed with Roaf."). For all we know, Mike Solari may be a better coordinator than Al Saunders. I mean this supposed genius Al Saunders was a position coach since getting fired from the Chargers in the 80's before anyone gave him a shot at being an OC. So I don't understand much of the reaction. Sometimes change is good.

And TJ, it's not like we just straight up block and run it at you. There is a whole blocking scheme we use which stresses the chip blocking method Solari is so good at teaching. So to try to minimize the complexity of our running attack by saying it's nothing but running it behind Roaf is ludicrous...

Having a good O-line is necessary but not sufficient to having a great offense. Marty had dominant O-lines back in the day, and our offenses were very average at best. We had a pretty good offense under Saunders with John Tait at LT. Not great, but certainly above average, with the worst WRs in the history of the league.

For every Mularkey argument, there is a Weis and Linehan argument the other way -- dramatic improvement with a new coach with the same personnel. We'll see if that happens in Washington.

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by Dunit35

We wasted him. He deserved the HC job more than anyone. I wish he would have stayed. DAMN YOU CARL PETERSON.

Noone offered him a HC position. There must be a problem there somewhere. I don't know. I'm no fan of CP, not sure why you are cursing him, though...

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by BigChiefDave

I'm no fan of CP, not sure why you are cursing him, though...

all the cool kids do.........