Ten players who will determine the NFL playoff race - Page 3

**Donger** · 11-28-2006, 02:36 PM

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1. Larry Johnson: For all the attention San Diego Chargers running back LaDainian Tomlinson has garnered in what should be an MVP season, Johnson has been nearly as dazzling over the last month and a half. The Kansas City Chiefs running back leads the league in rushing (1,202 yards) and he's been thriving behind a patchwork offensive line. Think about it: The Chiefs lost Pro Bowl left tackle Willie Roaf to retirement and they've had three other starters go down at various times this season (Pro Bowl guard Brian Waters and offensive tackles Kyle Turley and Kevin Sampson). But somehow the Chiefs keep opening holes for Johnson, and that's helped keep them alive. Now that Kansas City is 7-4 and locked in a second-place tie with Denver in the AFC West, you can expect Johnson to maintain his current pace.

2. Tatum Bell: If the Denver Broncos expect rookie quarterback Jay Cutler to guide them to a playoff run in these final five games, he's going to need more help than what his benched predecessor, Jake Plummer, received during the first 11 games. As much as people want to focus on Plummer's failings, the reality is that Denver's once vaunted running game hasn't done much this season. The absence of Bell -- who's been plagued by two turf toe injuries over the last three weeks -- has been especially problematic. He's the Broncos' most proven and explosive runner when healthy and could have a huge impact on the playoff race. When he returns, the Broncos have a better chance of producing more consistency on the ground and easing the pressure on Cutler. If Bell stays out even longer, we might finally have some evidence that not everybody can thrive behind Denver's offensive line.

3. Eli Manning: It's time to stop hyping this third-year New York Giants quarterback and to begin accepting that he's not destined for greatness. All Manning is at this stage is a good player who needs to work hard to become a better one. In fact, I can't remember the last time he made a big play in a game that mattered in the second half of a season. He's thrown six interceptions and two touchdown passes during the Giants' current three-game losing streak and he bottomed out at the end of last year as well. Let's face it: He needs to step up his game big time if the Giants hope to stay in the race. If his name were Eli Wagstaff, we'd be talking about him with the same uncertainty we apply to Houston's David Carr.

4. Reggie Williams: The Jacksonville Jaguars need some receiver to become a go-to guy for quarterback David Garrard, so it might as well be Williams. He has the most seniority of the best candidates -- having been a first-round pick in the 2004 draft -- and it's time to see if he ever will deliver on that investment. As it stands now, there is simply too much pressure on the Jaguars offense to not have a wide receiver who can be a reliable target in the passing game. It can't be Matt Jones, last year's first-round pick, because he still hasn't shown that he has the toughness to catch passes in traffic or the acceleration to run away from receivers on deep routes. Ernest Wilford, the other starter, is an adequate possession option but he's not going to terrify anybody. That leaves Williams, who is about as close to being a bust as a receiver can get in this league right now. These next few weeks would be a good time for him to start changing that perception.

5. Chris Henry: As troublesome as this Cincinnati second-year wide receiver has been over the last year -- and he has to have set some sort of unofficial record for run-ins with the law in a 12-month period -- he's still a hell of a player, one the Bengals need badly for their wide-open offense to be at its best in the stretch run. When Henry is on his game, his deep speed forces defenses to lighten up their coverage on fellow wideouts Chad Johnson and T.J. Houshmandzadeh. The Bengals missed that element when Henry was serving a suspension earlier this season for violating the league's substance abuse policy, but his presence played a key factor in Johnson producing 573 receiving yards over his last three games. True, Henry has been erratic in the last couple games, but the Bengals need him on the field.

6. Chris Draft: The Carolina Panthers would be woefully thin at middle linebacker if they didn't have Draft filling in for injured starter Dan Morgan. Draft has the veteran savvy to make up for what Carolina lost in Morgan's absence and he's helping a disappointing Panthers defense regain some of its edge. Even with Carolina's loss last Sunday to Washington, the improved play on defense has to give the Panthers hope that they can still overtake New Orleans for the NFC South title.

7. Martin Gramatica. So much for Mike Vanderjagt, the most accurate kicker in NFL history, solving the Dallas Cowboys' place-kicking problems. Now that Dallas has cut him and signed Gramatica, who couldn't last in New England earlier this year, I have to wonder just how much faith head coach Bill Parcells will have in his kicking game over the next five games. Look, I like the way quarterback Tony Romo is playing. But he's not going to throw five touchdown passes every Sunday and there will be plenty of close games that will likely come down to a field goal. Given the way things have gone for the Cowboys in recent years, I doubt they've found a player who actually can deliver a clutch kick when needed. If that's the case, Dallas' woes could give other playoff candidates new life.

8. Leroy Hill: Much of the focus in Seattle has been on the return of running back Shaun Alexander and quarterback Matt Hasselbeck from injuries, but Seattle's defense still needs to get better, and Hill, a second-year outside linebacker, is vital to that improvement. Quietly as the notion is kept, some scouts think Hill's a better linebacker than the more heavily hyped Lofa Tatupu. Hill is fast and instinctive, and the Seahawks need his play-making to avoid the struggles that plagued them earlier this year. Remember, five teams have scored more than 28 points against Seattle this year. That's not an encouraging sign.

9. Deuce McAllister: The Saints have the NFL's top offense (402.5 yards per game) but that's mostly the result of how pass-heavy that system has become over the last few weeks. New Orleans could use more balance in its attack, and that means using McAllister, its workhorse running back, more often. Currently, the Saints rank 28th in the league in rushing. That won't get it done when they have to start winning close games. McAllister and Reggie Bush simply need to contribute more to keep this storybook season from ending badly.

10. Jonathan Vilma: The New York Jets inside linebacker has ranked among the league leaders in tackles all season but he's also been producing in a 3-4 system that doesn't play to his strengths. At 6-foot-1 and 230 pounds, Vilma doesn't have the prototypical size to take on guards and centers in that scheme and opposing teams have exploited that fact at various times this year. If the surprising Jets are going to stay in contention, he'll have to keep playing at his best for a defense that really doesn't have adequate personnel for the 3-4.

Fairplay · 11-28-2006, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

I won rights to Bill's sig for the rest of the season back when the Colts beat the Jets. He was so sure the Jets would win. be all along, but that

I never really paid attention to his sig until you said this. Then i had to look closely at it to vaguely make out the small logos.

I would have picked out a sig that was more noticeable GoChiefs.

Hammock Parties · 11-28-2006, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Fairplay

I never really paid attention to his sig until you said this. Then i had to look closely at it to vaguely make out the small logos.

I would have picked out a sig that was more noticeable GoChiefs.

What? How can you not notice a picture of Eric Mangina with the words SOFT BITCH splattered all over it?

Fairplay · 11-28-2006, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

What? How can you not notice a picture of Eric Mangina with the words SOFT BITCH splattered all over it?

Heh, no its a good one. Sucks to be him.

**2112** · 11-28-2006, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dongless

Errrr, what?

The number 360 as the number of 'degrees' (or minimal/practical sub-arcs) in a circle, and hence the unit of a degree as a sub-arc of 1⁄360 of the circle, was probably adopted because it approximates the number of days in a year. Ancient astronomers noticed that the stars in the sky, which circle the celestial pole every day, seem to advance in that circle by approximately one-360th of a circle, i.e. one degree, each day. Primitive calendars, such as the Persian Calendar used 360 days for a year. Its application to measuring angles in geometry can possibly be traced to Thales who popularized geometry among the Greeks and lived in Anatolia (modern western Turkey) among people who had dealings with Egypt and Babylon.

That means a complete turnaround

**2112** · 11-28-2006, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Fairplay

Heh, no its a good one. Sucks to be him.

This was going to be GoChiefs sig..damnit!!!

**2112** · 11-28-2006, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

Three games and you are hailing your defense. Fantastic. I'll remove the soft bitch label if you guys turn it around over the last five games. We'll see what happens.

No!!! leave it alone..it's a good luck charm

**Donger** · 11-28-2006, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by bill parcells

The number 360 as the number of 'degrees' (or minimal/practical sub-arcs) in a circle, and hence the unit of a degree as a sub-arc of 1⁄360 of the circle, was probably adopted because it approximates the number of days in a year. Ancient astronomers noticed that the stars in the sky, which circle the celestial pole every day, seem to advance in that circle by approximately one-360th of a circle, i.e. one degree, each day. Primitive calendars, such as the Persian Calendar used 360 days for a year. Its application to measuring angles in geometry can possibly be traced to Thales who popularized geometry among the Greeks and lived in Anatolia (modern western Turkey) among people who had dealings with Egypt and Babylon.

That means a complete turnaround

Hmmm. That must be an American expression. I've always said that "a complete turnaround" is 180 degrees. For example, your football team sucks, but they improved drastically (to the exact opposite of the circle, or 180 degrees). If they do a 360, they go past being better and end up where they started, sucking.

Interesting.

Hammock Parties · 11-28-2006, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by bill parcells

No!!! leave it alone..it's a good luck charm

I wasn't speaking to your sig. Just my affinity for characterizing the team from New Jersey as a bunch of soft bitches.

Fairplay · 11-28-2006, 06:30 PM

That sig might be to big for the sig rules, but im not sure.

GoChiefs would know about that kind of stuff.

**2112** · 11-28-2006, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Dongless

Hmmm. That must be an American expression. I've always said that "a complete turnaround" is 180 degrees. For example, your football team sucks, but they improved drastically (to the exact opposite of the circle, or 180 degrees). If they do a 360, they go past being better and end up where they started, sucking.

Interesting.

Well..if they completely turn around..and continue moving forward..thats called progression in motion Dr. Freud

FAX · 11-28-2006, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Dongless

Hmmm. That must be an American expression. I've always said that "a complete turnaround" is 180 degrees. For example, your football team sucks, but they improved drastically (to the exact opposite of the circle, or 180 degrees). If they do a 360, they go past being better and end up where they started, sucking.

Interesting.

I don't know, Mr. Dongless. In the America I live in, 180 degrees refers to the opposite direction and 360 sort of puts you back where you began, as you say.

I'm uncertain as to what society Mr. bill parcells is referring to here.

FAX

**alnorth** · 11-28-2006, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Dongless

Hmmm. That must be an American expression. I've always said that "a complete turnaround" is 180 degrees. For example, your football team sucks, but they improved drastically (to the exact opposite of the circle, or 180 degrees). If they do a 360, they go past being better and end up where they started, sucking.

Interesting.

I concur. If your team does a 360, then that means they basically put in a ton of changes, but end up being just as bad as before.

**2112** · 11-28-2006, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

I wasn't speaking to your sig. Just my affinity for characterizing the team from New Jersey as a bunch of soft bitches.

You are like a broken record..they are 6-5..what is your opinion of your beloved Chiefs at 7-4???

**Donger** · 11-28-2006, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bill parcells

Well..if they completely turn around..and continue moving forward..thats called progression in motion Dr. Freud

Okay. That doesn't make any sense to me, but I'm glad that you're okay with it.

**2112** · 11-28-2006, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX

I'm uncertain as to what society Mr. bill parcells is referring to here.

FAX

Progression in motion

11-28-2006, 02:36 PM
Donger "Think BOOM!" Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: 33.675° N 106.475° W Casino cash: $6809900 VARSITY	Ten players who will determine the NFL playoff race http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...x.html?cnn=yes 1. Larry Johnson: For all the attention San Diego Chargers running back LaDainian Tomlinson has garnered in what should be an MVP season, Johnson has been nearly as dazzling over the last month and a half. The Kansas City Chiefs running back leads the league in rushing (1,202 yards) and he's been thriving behind a patchwork offensive line. Think about it: The Chiefs lost Pro Bowl left tackle Willie Roaf to retirement and they've had three other starters go down at various times this season (Pro Bowl guard Brian Waters and offensive tackles Kyle Turley and Kevin Sampson). But somehow the Chiefs keep opening holes for Johnson, and that's helped keep them alive. Now that Kansas City is 7-4 and locked in a second-place tie with Denver in the AFC West, you can expect Johnson to maintain his current pace. 2. Tatum Bell: If the Denver Broncos expect rookie quarterback Jay Cutler to guide them to a playoff run in these final five games, he's going to need more help than what his benched predecessor, Jake Plummer, received during the first 11 games. As much as people want to focus on Plummer's failings, the reality is that Denver's once vaunted running game hasn't done much this season. The absence of Bell -- who's been plagued by two turf toe injuries over the last three weeks -- has been especially problematic. He's the Broncos' most proven and explosive runner when healthy and could have a huge impact on the playoff race. When he returns, the Broncos have a better chance of producing more consistency on the ground and easing the pressure on Cutler. If Bell stays out even longer, we might finally have some evidence that not everybody can thrive behind Denver's offensive line. 3. Eli Manning: It's time to stop hyping this third-year New York Giants quarterback and to begin accepting that he's not destined for greatness. All Manning is at this stage is a good player who needs to work hard to become a better one. In fact, I can't remember the last time he made a big play in a game that mattered in the second half of a season. He's thrown six interceptions and two touchdown passes during the Giants' current three-game losing streak and he bottomed out at the end of last year as well. Let's face it: He needs to step up his game big time if the Giants hope to stay in the race. If his name were Eli Wagstaff, we'd be talking about him with the same uncertainty we apply to Houston's David Carr. 4. Reggie Williams: The Jacksonville Jaguars need some receiver to become a go-to guy for quarterback David Garrard, so it might as well be Williams. He has the most seniority of the best candidates -- having been a first-round pick in the 2004 draft -- and it's time to see if he ever will deliver on that investment. As it stands now, there is simply too much pressure on the Jaguars offense to not have a wide receiver who can be a reliable target in the passing game. It can't be Matt Jones, last year's first-round pick, because he still hasn't shown that he has the toughness to catch passes in traffic or the acceleration to run away from receivers on deep routes. Ernest Wilford, the other starter, is an adequate possession option but he's not going to terrify anybody. That leaves Williams, who is about as close to being a bust as a receiver can get in this league right now. These next few weeks would be a good time for him to start changing that perception. 5. Chris Henry: As troublesome as this Cincinnati second-year wide receiver has been over the last year -- and he has to have set some sort of unofficial record for run-ins with the law in a 12-month period -- he's still a hell of a player, one the Bengals need badly for their wide-open offense to be at its best in the stretch run. When Henry is on his game, his deep speed forces defenses to lighten up their coverage on fellow wideouts Chad Johnson and T.J. Houshmandzadeh. The Bengals missed that element when Henry was serving a suspension earlier this season for violating the league's substance abuse policy, but his presence played a key factor in Johnson producing 573 receiving yards over his last three games. True, Henry has been erratic in the last couple games, but the Bengals need him on the field. 6. Chris Draft: The Carolina Panthers would be woefully thin at middle linebacker if they didn't have Draft filling in for injured starter Dan Morgan. Draft has the veteran savvy to make up for what Carolina lost in Morgan's absence and he's helping a disappointing Panthers defense regain some of its edge. Even with Carolina's loss last Sunday to Washington, the improved play on defense has to give the Panthers hope that they can still overtake New Orleans for the NFC South title. 7. Martin Gramatica. So much for Mike Vanderjagt, the most accurate kicker in NFL history, solving the Dallas Cowboys' place-kicking problems. Now that Dallas has cut him and signed Gramatica, who couldn't last in New England earlier this year, I have to wonder just how much faith head coach Bill Parcells will have in his kicking game over the next five games. Look, I like the way quarterback Tony Romo is playing. But he's not going to throw five touchdown passes every Sunday and there will be plenty of close games that will likely come down to a field goal. Given the way things have gone for the Cowboys in recent years, I doubt they've found a player who actually can deliver a clutch kick when needed. If that's the case, Dallas' woes could give other playoff candidates new life. 8. Leroy Hill: Much of the focus in Seattle has been on the return of running back Shaun Alexander and quarterback Matt Hasselbeck from injuries, but Seattle's defense still needs to get better, and Hill, a second-year outside linebacker, is vital to that improvement. Quietly as the notion is kept, some scouts think Hill's a better linebacker than the more heavily hyped Lofa Tatupu. Hill is fast and instinctive, and the Seahawks need his play-making to avoid the struggles that plagued them earlier this year. Remember, five teams have scored more than 28 points against Seattle this year. That's not an encouraging sign. 9. Deuce McAllister: The Saints have the NFL's top offense (402.5 yards per game) but that's mostly the result of how pass-heavy that system has become over the last few weeks. New Orleans could use more balance in its attack, and that means using McAllister, its workhorse running back, more often. Currently, the Saints rank 28th in the league in rushing. That won't get it done when they have to start winning close games. McAllister and Reggie Bush simply need to contribute more to keep this storybook season from ending badly. 10. Jonathan Vilma: The New York Jets inside linebacker has ranked among the league leaders in tackles all season but he's also been producing in a 3-4 system that doesn't play to his strengths. At 6-foot-1 and 230 pounds, Vilma doesn't have the prototypical size to take on guards and centers in that scheme and opposing teams have exploited that fact at various times this year. If the surprising Jets are going to stay in contention, he'll have to keep playing at his best for a defense that really doesn't have adequate personnel for the 3-4.
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