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Old 09-14-2008, 08:43 PM   #1
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Sure, talent of players that he's watched for years. His drafts were all a freaking joke though. My point is that trading draft picks for old players isn't rebuilding.
true enough. too bad he couldn't of helped a little on the D side during his time
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Old 09-14-2008, 08:34 PM   #2
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Thats true, but at least vermiel (on offense) knew how to judge talent
Hall was his only discovery. Holmes was a 1000 yard back early in his career, of course nobody expected him to turn into what he did. A blind monkey knew Willie Roaf was a pure stud and Green, Kennison, and Weigmann were productive starters in the league. It was a quick fix to get a Super Bowl and it set this franchise back. That and the Greatest Show on Turf offense was a smoke and mirror show on the fan base as well.
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Old 09-14-2008, 09:04 PM   #3
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Hall was his only discovery. Holmes was a 1000 yard back early in his career, of course nobody expected him to turn into what he did. A blind monkey knew Willie Roaf was a pure stud and Green, Kennison, and Weigmann were productive starters in the league. It was a quick fix to get a Super Bowl and it set this franchise back. That and the Greatest Show on Turf offense was a smoke and mirror show on the fan base as well.
Set it back?!? Set it back from what? We were a losing club when he came here and we are losing club after he left. How are we worse off because of him? Herm has had 3 drafts now. WTF has he done besides embarrass us even worse than Vermeil's defenses? Has our D really gotten better? Teams don't score more on us because they don't have to. They only need a couple of Field goals to ensure a victory over us.
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Old 09-14-2008, 09:19 PM   #5
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Thats true, but at least vermiel (on offense) knew how to judge talent

Defense or friends?
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Old 09-14-2008, 08:33 PM   #7
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People dog on Vermeil alot, but he did rebuild when he came in.

New QB
New RB
Rebuilt O-line
New WR's

Better position coaches

Albeit he did it with mostly vets, but he did rebuild.

IM not even Vermeils biggest fan, but Herm makes DV look like Bellicheck.
Yes, nobody is acting like our offense is better.

Besides no matter what Herm does he accomplished as much as DV. A playoff appearance resulting in a loss.
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Old 09-14-2008, 08:24 PM   #8
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Old 09-14-2008, 08:34 PM   #9
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Name an area of the Chiefs Herm Edwards has improved since he took over?

Draft position comes to mind.
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Old 09-14-2008, 08:35 PM   #10
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Name an area of the Chiefs Herm Edwards has improved since he took over?

Draft position comes to mind.
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Old 09-15-2008, 02:14 PM   #11
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Really? You would think that a teams "G-E-N-E-R-A-L" "M-A-N-A-G-E-R" would have something to say about letting a team get too old to complete and draft poorly season after season.
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Old 09-15-2008, 02:18 PM   #12
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Really? You would think that a teams "G-E-N-E-R-A-L" "M-A-N-A-G-E-R" would have something to say about letting a team get too old to complete and draft poorly season after season.

I agree wholeheartedly.

It is the Gms responsibility, he's the guy who's given the duties to run the whole franchise and look in the longterm

The coaches job is to make better the players he has.

IMO, they both failed
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Old 09-14-2008, 08:36 PM   #13
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I'm not a fan of Herm at all, I'd like his ass to be fired and I look forward to him being gone.
That said, this post is stupid.

The defense is better than it was, if you don't think so you've got a shitty selective memory.
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if you don't think so you've got a shitty selective memory.
Yup.
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