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Old 09-26-2008, 03:53 PM   #1
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The Titans moved to Nashville in 1997. The period Gretz described was 2004-2006.


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As for the Sloption ... yes. The Sloption were those plays. No biggie? Well, it's true that it had little impact on the outcome of the game, but that wasn't why I asked. I'm more interested in your thoughts in respect to the decision itself. Did you think that was a game situation that called for the Sloption? Did you think it was a wise tactic? Or, perhaps, you thought it might have come across as a strange and somewhat rash move indicative of desperation.

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Desperation is the rational response to having to play an immobile Huard and Tyler Thigpen. I like that package - that's all Chan Gailey. And I do think we're going to see similar plays with Charles lined up as QB soon. Again- check out how well it worked in New England last week. Those plays can be very successful.
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Old 09-26-2008, 04:05 PM   #2
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The Titans moved to Nashville in 1997. The period Gretz described was 2004-2006. ...
I'm sure this is just a simple matter of miscommunication and not a conscious, intentional attempt on your part to misdirect the discussion in order to score some cheap gotcha points, Mr. Zouk. I refuse to believe that a person of your intellect and integrity would do something like that. Ever.

But, just to be clear. I mentioned the Tacks' move to Nashville in the context of your prior post which included the following statistics ...

Herm Edwards:

Playoffs: 4 out of 7 years (57%)
Playoff record: 2-3

Jeff Fisher:

Playoffs: 5 out of 13 years (38%)
Playoff record: 5-5

Surely we're on the same page, now. Gretz can talk about whatever he wishes. You, on the other hand, were making the argument that Herm's record compares favorably to Fishers' and you included Fisher's 13 years of tenure in order to make your point. I was simply pointing out (as I've already stated) that Fisher's w/l record should be viewed in light of the many issues he had to fight through while acquiring said record. Just so we're clear.

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Old 09-26-2008, 04:09 PM   #3
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Your comment about "People were not singing Jeff Fisher's praises during that period ..." is curious, though. Sure, there were some folks who were harping on him, but just so you know, the vast majority of peeps in Nashville were tremendously supportive of him - even during those crazy times. I think it was because they were just so thrilled to have an NFL team moving in. Had he not started winning, though, I'm sure that would have changed.

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The period I was talking about in the first line was 2004-2006.
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Old 09-26-2008, 03:57 PM   #4
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Great article by Gretz. He's bang on.
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Old 09-26-2008, 04:25 PM   #5
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Great article by Gretz. He's bang on.
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Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down.

One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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Old 09-26-2008, 04:17 PM   #6
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Okay ... let's see here ... first, it's 3 years of rebuild, then it's 13 years of record, then it's 3 years of rebuild again. With all respect, Mr. Zouk, this is getting confusing.

I tell you what, let's just pick one, single year we can both agree on and work from there. I'll start ... 1867.

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Old 09-26-2008, 04:31 PM   #7
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Okay ... let's see here ... first, it's 3 years of rebuild, then it's 13 years of record, then it's 3 years of rebuild again. With all respect, Mr. Zouk, this is getting confusing.

I tell you what, let's just pick one, single year we can both agree on and work from there. I'll start ... 1867.

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Dude - you said you thought I was wrong about people being down on Jeff Fisher during "that period" because they were excited the Titans were new to the city. But "that period" I was referring to was almost 10 years after that. And all of that had nothing to do with comparisons to Herm.

When I compared the records I used their entire tenures as coach.

This is not as tricky as you're pretending it is.
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Old 09-26-2008, 04:38 PM   #8
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Dude - you said you thought I was wrong about people being down on Jeff Fisher during "that period" because they were excited the Titans were new to the city. But "that period" I was referring to was almost 10 years after that. And all of that had nothing to do with comparisons to Herm.

When I compared the records I used their entire tenures as coach.

This is not as tricky as you're pretending it is.
You gotta watch that FAX guy. He's tricky.
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Old 09-26-2008, 04:26 PM   #9
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You know guys, I really resent the notion that I'm trying in some way to please the Chiefs by being positive. I'm not. The Chiefs don't give me anything in return. So please stop.
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Old 09-26-2008, 04:40 PM   #10
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You know guys, I really resent the notion that I'm trying in some way to please the Chiefs by being positive. I'm not. The Chiefs don't give me anything in return. So please stop.
If Nick couldn't get press credentials, WPI would be frequented by about 10 people.

Since he can, you have something to gain by licking the taint of the Chiefs.

You have everything to gain. Without this gig, what are you going to do? Move out of the basement and work in fast food?
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Old 09-26-2008, 04:40 PM   #11
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You know guys, I really resent the notion that I'm trying in some way to please the Chiefs by being positive. I'm not. The Chiefs don't give me anything in return. So please stop.
OK i believe you.


Why dont you try and be more honest with your readers?? Chiefs fans are not stupid.
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Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down.

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Old 09-26-2008, 04:43 PM   #12
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Why dont you try and be more honest with your readers?
I give my honest opinion.

Sometimes that opinion is negative.
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Old 09-26-2008, 04:44 PM   #13
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I give my honest opinion.
Well then your either naive or just an ignornant dipsh*t ?
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Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down.

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Old 09-26-2008, 04:45 PM   #14
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I give my honest opinion.

Sometimes that opinion is negative.
Please tell me how you can spin a huge loss to a bad team like the Falcons into something positive and then have the balls to say that you give an honest opinion?

Just because the Chiefs ran the ball when they were down big, doesn't mean jack shit.
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Old 09-26-2008, 04:29 PM   #15
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so the point of this is that Gretz thinks we should give Carl 2 more years to show signs of improvement?
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