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Old 01-21-2009, 05:21 PM   #1
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I figured I could add a Cardinals fans perspective here.

1) Some feel Haley won't work well with a non-successful team, but he did well with Arizona which wasn't exactly .. well Arizona.. when he got there. We were 5-11 and some of the players playing well now were not then. The coaches called Fitz a one trick pony when they got here because all he did was the jump ball, never caught it in stride or ran like he does after the tackle now. A lot of the Fitz who the world is finding out about comes from our coaches.

2) We aren't all that happy with Grimm right now. The numbers don't tell the story, our O-line has been pretty damn bad. Warner is excellent at getting rid of the ball which makes them look better, but our top 5 pick Levi looks like he might be bench-bound. our RG has sucked, plain and simple. our center has been good but is not a world-beater by any standards (and he was a lucky find, a UDFA), the only guys playing well are our left side (Mike Gandy who has surprised with his play and Reggie Wells, who played well in the 'let em off the hook' era).

3) Haley and Warner are known to argue with each other, but more is made of it than needed. Warner is a firey guy who gets upset whenever anything goes wrong, and more often than not he is upset at himself. He also is almost like a coach on the field, often times Haley will call the Blocking and let Warner call the rest of the play. Haley impressed me with his ability to let go of that control.

4) Us Cards fans don't much like Cris "Arizona is still the worst playoff team ever" Collinsworth

5) I wouldn't expect anything else from a guy going to the super bowl in 2 weeks, but this seems like more than just a I like my job here. “I really, and I’m not just saying this, I love my job here, I really do,” Haley said Monday, sitting in his office. “Everybody loves to get patted on the back or told they do a good job, but the attention isn’t something I am super comfortable with. I just told (head coach Ken Whisenhunt) I love my job here. I live in a great place, I have five kids and the thought of me moving or doing something else isn’t at the forefront for me.”

And for what its worth, most Cards fans don't want to lose Haley, we like him and as a whole think he would be successful as a H.C. and that its only a matter of time until he is one somewhere.
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Old 01-21-2009, 05:48 PM   #2
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I figured I could add a Cardinals fans perspective here.

1) Some feel Haley won't work well with a non-successful team, but he did well with Arizona which wasn't exactly .. well Arizona.. when he got there. We were 5-11 and some of the players playing well now were not then. The coaches called Fitz a one trick pony when they got here because all he did was the jump ball, never caught it in stride or ran like he does after the tackle now. A lot of the Fitz who the world is finding out about comes from our coaches.

2) We aren't all that happy with Grimm right now. The numbers don't tell the story, our O-line has been pretty damn bad. Warner is excellent at getting rid of the ball which makes them look better, but our top 5 pick Levi looks like he might be bench-bound. our RG has sucked, plain and simple. our center has been good but is not a world-beater by any standards (and he was a lucky find, a UDFA), the only guys playing well are our left side (Mike Gandy who has surprised with his play and Reggie Wells, who played well in the 'let em off the hook' era).

3) Haley and Warner are known to argue with each other, but more is made of it than needed. Warner is a firey guy who gets upset whenever anything goes wrong, and more often than not he is upset at himself. He also is almost like a coach on the field, often times Haley will call the Blocking and let Warner call the rest of the play. Haley impressed me with his ability to let go of that control.

4) Us Cards fans don't much like Cris "Arizona is still the worst playoff team ever" Collinsworth

5) I wouldn't expect anything else from a guy going to the super bowl in 2 weeks, but this seems like more than just a I like my job here. “I really, and I’m not just saying this, I love my job here, I really do,” Haley said Monday, sitting in his office. “Everybody loves to get patted on the back or told they do a good job, but the attention isn’t something I am super comfortable with. I just told (head coach Ken Whisenhunt) I love my job here. I live in a great place, I have five kids and the thought of me moving or doing something else isn’t at the forefront for me.”

And for what its worth, most Cards fans don't want to lose Haley, we like him and as a whole think he would be successful as a H.C. and that its only a matter of time until he is one somewhere.
Thanks for the input.

Gotta say, it must be nice to have a coach on your team that you actually wouldn't want to lose.

I can't remember what that feels like.
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Old 01-21-2009, 06:13 PM   #3
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Thanks for the input.

Gotta say, it must be nice to have a coach on your team that you actually wouldn't want to lose.

I can't remember what that feels like.
I know I wouldn't mind getting Krumrie. Plus, Herm and Denny Green aren't that different in their effect on their teams. Denny helped provide Zona with a lot of the current talent, but couldn't coach or gameplan worth anything. There is a lot of young talent on KC, add a good coach and Coordinators who can gameplan well and you will be dangerous very soon.
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Old 01-21-2009, 06:19 PM   #4
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I know I wouldn't mind getting Krumrie. Plus, Herm and Denny Green aren't that different in their effect on their teams. Denny helped provide Zona with a lot of the current talent, but couldn't coach or gameplan worth anything. There is a lot of young talent on KC, add a good coach and Coordinators who can gameplan well and you will be dangerous very soon.
Trust me, you don't want Krumrie.

But you can have him.


Please, take him.
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Trust me, you don't want Krumrie.

But you can have him.


Please, take him.
Heh, my roommate is a chiefs fan and has always spoken highly of him, figured the issues this season were personnel not coaching.. well in that case, no time better than now for a clean wipe.
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Old 01-21-2009, 06:39 PM   #6
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Todd Haley has a history of developing good WRs as a WRs coach with the NY Jets (Keyshawn Johnson and Wayne Cherbet), and Chicago Bears (Marty Booker had his two best seasons when Haley as the WRs coach in Chicago).

The potential risk with Haley is the risk you would take hiring any assistant coach who has never been an NFL head coach IMO. I don't put too much stock into his blow-up with Boldin, because Boldin has been a pain in Arizona's ass all season with his unhappiness over his contract.
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Well, if Haley turns out to be the guy Pioli is after, we have another week and a half of rumor-mongering and speculation to deal with.
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Well, if Haley turns out to be the guy Pioli is after, we have another week and a half of rumor-mongering and speculation to deal with.
Hey, don't underrate the Chiefs. You can have another week and a half of rumor-mongering and speculation to deal with even if Haley is NOT the guy!
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