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Old 01-01-2010, 01:05 PM  
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At&t to FCC: Landline phone service must die

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Old 01-01-2010, 06:40 PM   #31
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Old 01-01-2010, 09:20 PM   #32
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I have a land line - and I like having a land line for the power reason already mentioned 1 -


and 2 - Because E911 is not yet great.

when you dial 911 from the land line it is much quicker for them to locate you than from your cell phone. Not to mention my cell phone runs on VOIP with my Sprint Air rave - so they really would have no idea where I was.

BUT! - the one time I have had to call 911 in the three years I have lived in the house.. I used my cell phone...
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Old 01-01-2010, 09:40 PM   #33
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They will still have landlines for a long time, but they don't want to be regulated near as much since it's not as much of a necessity as it used to be. They still have to have lines run to the house to provide uverse and there will always be a lot of people that can't afford cell phones. Businesses will normally have landlines too, because it is way too expensive for them to be using cell phones all the time.
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Old 01-01-2010, 09:51 PM   #34
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We never answer our landline. It rings, the answering machine picks it up, and there's almost never anyone there (i.e. it's a telemarketer who hangs up). I haven't answered the phone in years. If they do away with landlines, I wouldn't miss them.

Honestly, there are a lot of things going the way of the dodo. The Hollywood Video franchise near us used to be a booming business. We'd go there frequently, from 2002-2007. But for the past two years we've barely gone there, and they closed without us even knowing about it. The Blockbuster near us also closed. Why? Because most people can now watch movies on their computer, or PS3, or via Netflix, or just by pressing a few buttons on their cable remote. VCRs, tube TVs, pagers... to everything there is a season, and the landline's is coming to an end.
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Old 01-01-2010, 10:37 PM   #35
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They had better not kill landlines. I am used to having a phone on each level of the house. You can't do that with cell phones without getting raped.
VOIP works just like land line system and they now have home phone systems that will bluetooth connect with a cell phone and act like a land line system.
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Old 01-02-2010, 01:57 AM   #36
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VOIP works just like land line system and they now have home phone systems that will bluetooth connect with a cell phone and act like a land line system.
Last I heard VOIP still had issues with cross talk. Plus, there is still the power issue.

On your second note regarding bluetooth connect. How exactly does that work?
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Old 01-02-2010, 08:24 AM   #37
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what most people dont realize is the POTS lines are more dependable than any other type of telephony out right now. The cell phone companies cant handle everyone having a cell phone (not enough capacity). Did you have problems texting or making a call on new years? And that was calls being made hours apart from the east coast to the west coast. If you do get voip you will need a cell as a backup because if youe internet goes down or you lose electricity I hope you do not have an emergency and need to make a call. Phone companies benefit (not us) if they get rid of pots srevices.
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Old 01-02-2010, 08:28 AM   #38
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This would save the company Billions, drive up profitability, and probably result in a price war in DSL & Mobility. I'm all for it.
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Old 01-02-2010, 08:53 AM   #39
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Last I heard VOIP still had issues with cross talk. Plus, there is still the power issue.

On your second note regarding bluetooth connect. How exactly does that work?
I've had Vonage for 4 years, no real issues except lightning zapping the phone modem.

A bluetooth home phone system simply connects to a cell phone like a bluetooth headset does. Then the paired cell phone becomes the main line that in turn feeds all the wireless phone receivers placed through out the house. Its basically like multiplying your cell phone but acts like and it gives you many functions of a land line phone.

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Old 01-02-2010, 09:37 AM   #40
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Having been in the trade in my engineering career, I am amazed of how far technology has advanced since I began in 1962. I was fortunate to be on the design end of many innovations that were thought impossible in the last four decades.

In the late '70s cell phones were 3k and huge. It was all analog and had severe performance limitations. Market pull was more of a factor than technology push and that is where the money comes in. Now, all cell phones are digital and that's where carriers a reaping huge profits from the bells and whistles everyone craves.

I ditched my copper 4 years ago. Everything, phone, INet and TV comes down my cable. My home is completely wireless without reliance of wire anywhere. Should power go, my cable modem has battery backup. Even in the absence of dial tone, I still can dial 911, far better than relying on VoIP.

I am a tech junky and in retirement have my lab and workshop where I do a lot of experimentation. My main project is developing efficient solar power to run my whole estate. In a few years, my reliance on infrastructure will be negligible and with a healthy garden, I won't have to worry who is president (or dictator).
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Old 01-02-2010, 09:41 AM   #41
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Last I heard VOIP still had issues with cross talk. Plus, there is still the power issue.

On your second note regarding bluetooth connect. How exactly does that work?
Probably talking about a bluetooth gateway device

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Old 01-02-2010, 10:10 AM   #42
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So what happens if everybody goes wireless and one of those super solar flares hits? Wouldn't we be completely ****ed?
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Old 01-02-2010, 10:14 AM   #43
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We had VOIP phones at work in addition to our landline. One too many power outages, I guess. After the last one, you could not understand anyone calling in. We haven't used them since.
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Old 01-02-2010, 10:14 AM   #44
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This would save the company Billions, drive up profitability, and probably result in a price war in DSL & Mobility. I'm all for it.
Yes, because I'm sure they'll pass the savings right on to us.



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Having been in the trade in my engineering career, I am amazed of how far technology has advanced since I began in 1962. I was fortunate to be on the design end of many innovations that were thought impossible in the last four decades.

In the late '70s cell phones were 3k and huge. It was all analog and had severe performance limitations. Market pull was more of a factor than technology push and that is where the money comes in. Now, all cell phones are digital and that's where carriers a reaping huge profits from the bells and whistles everyone craves.

I ditched my copper 4 years ago. Everything, phone, INet and TV comes down my cable. My home is completely wireless without reliance of wire anywhere. Should power go, my cable modem has battery backup. Even in the absence of dial tone, I still can dial 911, far better than relying on VoIP.

I am a tech junky and in retirement have my lab and workshop where I do a lot of experimentation. My main project is developing efficient solar power to run my whole estate. In a few years, my reliance on infrastructure will be negligible and with a healthy garden, I won't have to worry who is president (or dictator).
You will once they show up to take your shit.


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So what happens if everybody goes wireless and one of those super solar flares hits? Wouldn't we be completely ****ed?
If that happens, we're ****ed anyway.
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Old 01-02-2010, 11:17 AM   #45
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Yes, because I'm sure they'll pass the savings right on to us.




You will once they show up to take your shit.



If that happens, we're ****ed anyway.
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