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Old 09-16-2013, 11:45 AM   #1
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I want to believe this line just needs time to gel, but there is a deep desire to see the team draft a better center. Allen is also wearing thin with me. I still believe in Asamoah, Fisher and Albert. Although, I think SNR is right that Asamoah may not fit the profile and will get replaced most likely by not being resigned.
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Old 09-16-2013, 11:50 AM   #2
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Youngest starting OL in the league and they're using a different blocking scheme than the last couple of seasons. Give it time.
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Old 09-16-2013, 12:05 PM   #3
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Youngest starting OL in the league and they're using a different blocking scheme than the last couple of seasons. Give it time.
The problem is they are converting to a system that requires a different kind of lineman than what Haley brought in. Haley wanted that undersized, athletic style of lineman which I never cared for. I want big bodies first and athletic agility second. Big guys don't get blown off the ball and after 3 quarters of them leaning on you, the running game opens up.

Figure it like this, Weigman was like small in the DV line. You had Roaf, Shields and Tate and Trent Green had all day to throw and Priest had running lanes the size of 435.
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Old 09-16-2013, 11:58 AM   #4
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The locker room video on KCChiefs.com showed Albert and Dorsey having a long embrace in the locker room after the game. Seems to me like they have a mutual respect. I am optimistic that he will sign long term. Reid loves his RTs as much as his LTs after all...
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Old 09-16-2013, 12:06 PM   #5
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Fishers is plenty strong, needs to bend his knee's> He plays too high. As someone already mentioned this is a young line and a new system.
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Old 09-16-2013, 12:09 PM   #6
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Fishers is plenty strong, needs to bend his knee's> He plays too high. As someone already mentioned this is a young line and a new system.
I think we lack a touch of nastiness as well. I know Asamoah was supposed to have that but really...we need nastiness on the line. Not pie-eating, momma's boys that Pioli loved to draft.
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Old 09-16-2013, 12:58 PM   #7
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I think Fisher needs to hit the weight room hard and bulk up. Don't think his physical strength is good enough against most D lineman bull rushers.
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Fishers is plenty strong, needs to bend his knee's> He plays too high. As someone already mentioned this is a young line and a new system.
The biggest thing I see with Fischer is that he doesn't sit down in his pass protection good enough and gets pushed back with his shoulders leaning back too much. This is a technique issue and you see it with someone who isn't very comfortable with his back kick. It becomes very apparent with Fischer when he gets beat to the inside because he tries to lean forward a bit to try to compensate for getting his his shoulders worked over. It seems like a fixable technique issue with him. He'll have a bit of trouble before he gets his rhythm and some balance in his kick. The combination of bull rush and then a strong inside move gives me worries with him, but I expect he knows that's a huge weakness as well.
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Old 09-16-2013, 12:07 PM   #8
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Old 09-16-2013, 12:08 PM   #9
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Old 09-16-2013, 12:12 PM   #10
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Aside from Albert, who I do believe will sign long term, the Oline is whiffing pretty badly. Fisher should stay at RT yet rotate Stephenson more frequently. Asamoah has regressed and the job is his to lose with Shwartz waiting in the wings. Hudson probably won't be around next season unless things start to click for him. Hopefully, we'll see marked improvement by mid-season. Reid and Dorsey don't seem like " make do " types.
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Old 09-16-2013, 12:30 PM   #11
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The real problem is Andy has finesse zone blockers running a power scheme.

Hudson is way too small to handle this offense. Boot him and try Asamoah out at center. You honestly can't get much worse. He's smart enough and big enough to do it. Start Schwartz at RG. The fisher problem will take care of itself. He will get better with time.
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Old 09-16-2013, 12:41 PM   #12
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The real problem is Andy has finesse zone blockers running a power scheme.

Hudson is way too small to handle this offense. Boot him and try Asamoah out at center. You honestly can't get much worse. He's smart enough and big enough to do it. Start Schwartz at RG. The fisher problem will take care of itself. He will get better with time.

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Old 09-16-2013, 12:39 PM   #13
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I am not worried about Fisher. For as much as we are bashing on him the guy didn't give up much. Especially when compared to the interior.
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Old 09-16-2013, 12:49 PM   #14
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Old 09-16-2013, 01:22 PM   #15
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6'4", 313. Probably not the answer but still has almost 10 more pounds than Asamoah and 15 more than Hudson.
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