Would you suffer through another year of Alex Smith if they draft a 1st round QB?

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Smith is an intelligent player with good mechanics and game understanding who would be a good tutor/mentor to a rookie for the next year or two.

So, in a nutshell, yes, I'd be willing to tolerate Smith at QB for the next two seasons if the team were showing that they were putting in the necessary work to get a guy in who would be the QBOTF in the next two drafts.

1. Smith hasn't shown that he is an intelligent player. Delay of games, no sense of urgency, no two minute drive in 2 1/2 years, can't read the field, no pocket awareness. Mentor my ass.

2. Why are you giving them two years? This is the KC mantra - no real prospect this year, let's wait again.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Smith is an intelligent player with good mechanics and game understanding who would be a good tutor/mentor to a rookie for the next year or two.

I fully believe that Smith is an intelligent person. But I've never seen much that would cause me to think he's an intelligent football player. He simply doesn't display any realtime intelligence when it's necessary on the field. He consistently stares down his first option, to the point that defenders completely abandon their responsibility and simply follow Smith's eyes. Here's a perfect example. Look at how the two safeties follow his eyes to the checkdown, and leave a WR streaking uncovered up the middle:



There are countless more examples of this. At the first sign of any pressure, his decision making falls apart. If his first read isn't open, he has considerable difficulty adjusting to any other outcome. Generally he'll simply take off running. Many times all it takes is just the phantom anticipation of pressure to cause him to abandon the pocket. And he's simply terrible once he does leave the pocket. His vision is reduced to the point that defenses start crowding the box and let receivers run wild.

He may have considerable intelligence as a person, but his lack of confidence and fear of mistakes negates every single bit of that once he gets any whiff of pressure on the field.

[Mother****erJones]

Originally Posted by Fish

I fully believe that Smith is an intelligent person. But I've never seen much that would cause me to think he's an intelligent football player. He simply doesn't display any realtime intelligence when it's necessary on the field. He consistently stares down his first option, to the point that defenders completely abandon their responsibility and simply follow Smith's eyes. Here's a perfect example. Look at how the two safeties follow his eyes to the checkdown, and leave a WR streaking uncovered up the middle:



There are countless more examples of this. At the first sign of any pressure, his decision making falls apart. If his first read isn't open, he has considerable difficulty adjusting to any other outcome. Generally he'll simply take off running. Many times all it takes is just the phantom anticipation of pressure to cause him to abandon the pocket. And he's simply terrible once he does leave the pocket. His vision is reduced to the point that defenses start crowding the box and let receivers run wild.

He may have considerable intelligence as a person, but his lack of confidence and fear of mistakes negates every single bit of that once he gets any whiff of pressure on the field.

God he sucks! That ball should have been to Jamaal as soon as he makes his cut back inside.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Fish

He may have considerable intelligence as a person, but his lack of confidence and fear of mistakes negates every single bit of that once he gets any whiff of pressure on the field.

Which is basically what I was trying to say. And this has been exacerbated so far this season.

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

I would never consider Smith a pussy.

Pussies don't get the living shit kicked out of themselves to the point of rupturing internal organs and keep going back out.

I think that Smith has become detrimental to himself and the team in that he knows that there is a fine line being walked in terms of game time decisions on both sides of the ball that require him to not make any mistakes.

This leads to overly conservative play which in and of itself leads to mistakes. He's holding onto the ball too long which leads to protection issues that aren't necessarily the offensive lines fault. He's regularly throwing behind receivers because he's tying to make sure that they are in the right route. (Did this numerous times yesterday.)

They need to sit him. Give him a couple of games to refocus and get his head back together and see what they have in Daniel and Murray. Smith is an intelligent player with good mechanics and game understanding who would be a good tutor/mentor to a rookie for the next year or two.

But they have to really focus on making that a real thing right now. Dorsey's army of scouts should be told right now to comb through potential QB players for the next two drafts getting as much information and film on them as possible. Start some deep, hard work on the position immediately.

So, in a nutshell, yes, I'd be willing to tolerate Smith at QB for the next two seasons if the team were showing that they were putting in the necessary work to get a guy in who would be the QBOTF in the next two drafts.

nobody plays QB with more fear than Smith...it's why he's the 32nd ranked qb in the league

he is literally afraid to throw the ball

he is afraid of the pass rush, that's why he stares at it rather than scan the field

he's got no cojones...it's why he's terrible, embarrassing to watch...this QB of our golden era

and 2 more years? holy shit, you have lost it

[ptlyon]

And have Smith and Andy ruin him?

Poor bastard....

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

Say the Chiefs win 2-4 games this season and end up drafting a QB with their 1st pick.

Would you be willing to suffer through another season of Alex Smith? This is assuming that the rookie sits for the 1st season to get a handle on the offense. This also makes it so the Chiefs don't have to take a huge cap hit to cut Smith.

Well...we don't have a choice, other not going to the games (I'm already there) and not watching on TV (but a scheduled trainwreck on noon Sunday is still hard to miss).

[ChiefsCountry]

Chiefs luck would be draft a QB, Smith rides the luck into a 13-3 type season and the true fans go nuts and our new toy never gets a chance until its too late.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Chiefs luck would be draft a QB, Smith rides the luck into a 13-3 type season and the true fans go nuts and our new toy never gets a chance until its too late.

Andy got a 2nd rounder for McNabb at the same age Alex will be next year.

[Mother****erJones]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Andy got a 2nd rounder for McNabb at the same age Alex will be next year.

i doubt any team would give anything decent

[FlaChief58]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Andy got a 2nd rounder for McNabb at the same age Alex will be next year.

Mcnabb v Alice

One of these things is not like the other

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Flachief58

Mcnabb v Alice

One of these things is not like the other

He also got a 2 for Kolb.

[FlaChief58]

Originally Posted by BossChief

He also got a 2 for Kolb.

Who was young and showed some talent in his few starts with the eagles so it was worth giving the guy a shot. Alice has 11 years under his belt. Teams know what he is and, unless their QB situation is worse than ours, they won't give up much to get him

[Strongside]

Yes, please:

[RunKC]

Yes