Chiefs NFL's Best OLB: Houston vs. Miller - Page 3

pugsnotdrugs19 · 02-13-2016, 11:13 AM

Got into a debate with a Donkey fan regarding this topic earlier this week, but I love it. I think it's one that can be argued both ways, but personally I take a healthy Houston every day over a healthy Miller. Place your vote and make your own case below.

Things to keep in mind:

Justin Houston career numbers:
- 64 starts
-56 sacks (2011: 5.5 in 10 starts, 2012: 10.0 in 16 starts, 2013: 11.0 in 11 starts, 2014: 22.0 in 16 starts, 2015: 7.5 in 10 games)
- 3 interceptions
- 25 passes defensed
- 8 forced fumbles/ 5 recoveries
- 1 touchdown (INT), 1 safety
- Hasn't been flagged for anything since the 2013 season

Von Miller career numbers:
- 72 starts
- 60 sacks (2011: 11.5 in 15 starts, 2012: 18.5 in 16 starts, 2013: 5.0 in 9 starts, 2014: 14.0 in 16 starts, 2015: 11.0 in 16 starts)
- 1 interception
- 10 passes defensed
- 17 forced fumbles/ 5 recoveries
- 1 touchdown (INT), 1 touchdown (fumble recovery), 0 safeties
- Consistently penalized, often for personal fouls

For me, considering the numbers..... I still take Houston. Statistically, I can argue he's been better in every phase of the game except for forcing fumbles. Miller does have the playoff success to attribute in his argument, but Houston of course didn't hardly play in this year's playoffs. Regardless, this a fun topic no matter the time of year. So, who do you take?

**TimBone** · 02-13-2016, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

I mean, where was Miller when the Chiefs stomped them in November?

Fisher be making him his bitch, brah.

rtmike · 02-13-2016, 01:43 PM

Miller continues to emulate DT with those strip numbers.

I think he's too much DT. I'd much rather have Houston vs. run, etc.

ThaVirus · 02-13-2016, 01:47 PM

Miller is actually very good against the run as well.

ThaVirus · 02-13-2016, 01:49 PM

They're both A+ guys with injury histories.

If anything, I'd say Miller needs to clean up his game (less penalties) while Houston could attempt to go for the strip more often.

They're about as good as you can get, though. The only 3-4 OLB who can even be mentioned in the same breath is Mack. He has the potential to be on their level.

vailpass · 02-13-2016, 01:50 PM

Both are great. 2 Different players on 2 different teams, different schemes (assignment wise), different DCs, etc.

Prison Bitch · 02-13-2016, 01:51 PM

Ask this on any other NFL board and Houston won't even get 10% of the votes

jspchief · 02-13-2016, 02:01 PM

Von Miller's run in the playoffs swings the vote for me. He came up big in the biggest games. That gives him the edge imo.

**BigMeatballDave** · 02-13-2016, 02:15 PM

Miller is probably the better pass rusher, but Houston is better overall.

**BigMeatballDave** · 02-13-2016, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jspchief

Von Miller's run in the playoffs swings the vote for me. He came up big in the biggest games. That gives him the edge imo.

He has however it is a small sample size for Houston given he's been banged up for most of his time in the playoffs.

Codered · 02-13-2016, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Ask this on any other NFL board and Houston won't even get 10% of the votes

Sadly, this.

Bambi · 02-13-2016, 02:23 PM

OMG @ this thread

Bambi · 02-13-2016, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Ask this on any other NFL board and Houston won't even get 10% of the votes

I think there are some people on this board who would be very disappointed on the amount of "Who is Justin Houston?" responses you'd get as well.

**BigMeatballDave** · 02-13-2016, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bambi

I think there are some people on this board who would be very disappointed on the amount of "Who is Justin Houston?" responses you'd get as well.

No, because we know that there are a plethora of stupid football fans out there.

Bambi · 02-13-2016, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigMeatballDave

No, because we know that there are a plethora of stupid football fans out there.

There sure are. I can name you 22 of them.

**Baby Lee** · 02-13-2016, 02:31 PM

SAT time

As of now

Vonn --> Jerry Rice
as
Houston --> TO

View Poll Results: Houston or Miller?
Houston	74	54.01%
Miller	63	45.99%
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02-13-2016, 11:13 AM
pugsnotdrugs19 SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS Join Date: Aug 2013 Casino cash: $6629447	NFL's Best OLB: Houston vs. Miller Got into a debate with a Donkey fan regarding this topic earlier this week, but I love it. I think it's one that can be argued both ways, but personally I take a healthy Houston every day over a healthy Miller. Place your vote and make your own case below. Things to keep in mind: Justin Houston career numbers: - 64 starts -56 sacks (2011: 5.5 in 10 starts, 2012: 10.0 in 16 starts, 2013: 11.0 in 11 starts, 2014: 22.0 in 16 starts, 2015: 7.5 in 10 games) - 3 interceptions - 25 passes defensed - 8 forced fumbles/ 5 recoveries - 1 touchdown (INT), 1 safety - Hasn't been flagged for anything since the 2013 season Von Miller career numbers: - 72 starts - 60 sacks (2011: 11.5 in 15 starts, 2012: 18.5 in 16 starts, 2013: 5.0 in 9 starts, 2014: 14.0 in 16 starts, 2015: 11.0 in 16 starts) - 1 interception - 10 passes defensed - 17 forced fumbles/ 5 recoveries - 1 touchdown (INT), 1 touchdown (fumble recovery), 0 safeties - Consistently penalized, often for personal fouls For me, considering the numbers..... I still take Houston. Statistically, I can argue he's been better in every phase of the game except for forcing fumbles. Miller does have the playoff success to attribute in his argument, but Houston of course didn't hardly play in this year's playoffs. Regardless, this a fun topic no matter the time of year. So, who do you take?
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ThaVirus 5 o’clock free crack giveaway Join Date: Sep 2007 Casino cash: $-1687631	They're both A+ guys with injury histories. If anything, I'd say Miller needs to clean up his game (less penalties) while Houston could attempt to go for the strip more often. They're about as good as you can get, though. The only 3-4 OLB who can even be mentioned in the same breath is Mack. He has the potential to be on their level.
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jspchief BAMF Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Your Face Casino cash: $9998710	Von Miller's run in the playoffs swings the vote for me. He came up big in the biggest games. That gives him the edge imo. __________________ Courage is not the absence of fear but rather the judgment that something is more important than fear. The brave may not live forever but the cautious do not live at all.
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