Being ripped off...feels good doesnt it.

[BlackOp]

Nearly every impartial fan (of other teams) on NFL.com commented on how KC got hosed tonight.

The NFL is getting exposed and fans are reluctantly coming to the realization that this is...and always was..about money.

[007]

Personally I see both sides here. The defense was atrocious all game but did make a stop to give the offense the chance to ice the game. They didn't. Then the D finished it off by failing to make a stop on a deep ball AGAIN.

All that said, the officiating of this game was laughable on both sides but the calls on the chiefs side were much more game changing painful calls. refs have a lot of control in the outcome of a game and if it is ever proven they are steering games, I hope the league gets shut down.

[Ming the Merciless]

Originally Posted by FlintHillsChiefs

How were we "gifted" 20 points? **** off, you plebian, ameoba for a brain, dish faced, mouth breather

7 points fluke td to Wilson

7 points td on drive extended by gift penalty

6 points Raiders didn't get from missed fgs , lack of Jankowski


7+7+6


14 points we got, 6 the Raiders didn't get

All handed to us via the gods...

So no, we weren't "screwed"

[BlackOp]

Originally Posted by 007

if it is ever proven they are steering games, I hope the league gets shut down.

That narrative is already permeating across fanbases...before the internet and digital replays, they had it made. The reality is it has been this bad for years...we are just now starting to wrap our collective heads around the ruse...and they, being dinosaur money from a different generation...dont know what to do.

The NFL is eating itself...which is apropos.

[Ming the Merciless]

If there is some conspiracy to make the Raiders win, why did they call the 1st TD back on the Peter's flop? Why not just call TD right there ? That wasn't even a penalty...

[JohnnyV13]

Originally Posted by Pawnmower

Yeah I guess they did a good job masking it by getting the chiefs to allow 500 yards and getting the chiefs to be spotted 20 points

I wonder why they let the ball bounce into Wilson's hands for that td?

Just to increase the drama?

I'm not saying the Chiefs defense didn't play like dogshit. They did. Stipulated.
Terrible, moronic, game plan that put no pressure on Carr. Awful play by DB's.

But, they ignore the OPI on the flea flicker. Terrible, ticky tack calls on the Chiefs at crunch time. Missing that tackle on the Oakland receiver in the endzone. Just a horde of horrible calls that messed with both sides.

I wouldn't say the Chiefs were "gifted" with 20 points. But, Chiefs had PLENTY of chances to win outright (and they failed due to a combination of bad decisions from the sidelines and lack of performance in key moments). But, let's not pretend the zebras didn't damage the game with MULTIPLE bad calls that went both ways.

I'm not going to say it was some conspiracy. I will say that entire crew should get fired.

[Ming the Merciless]

Which of those 20 points wasn't basically handed to us?

I do agree...the refs SUCKED

That ain't why we lost though

[JohnnyV13]

Originally Posted by Pawnmower

Which of those 20 points wasn't basically handed to us?

You mean gifted by the Raiders or the refs? I didn't see 20 points gifted by the refs.

One "gift" was a crazy bounce. What was the other "gift" TD? Why were both field goals "gifts"?

If we're talking about gifts, you also have to take 7 points off the board for the Raiders when the refs picked up the flag when Cooper shoved that guy to the ground and they called phantom hold to take away Houston's beast-mode strip.

[nkd]

Originally Posted by Pawnmower

7 points fluke td to Wilson

7 points td on drive extended by gift penalty

6 points Raiders didn't get from missed fgs , lack of Jankowski


7+7+6


14 points we got, 6 the Raiders didn't get

All handed to us via the gods...

So no, we weren't "screwed"

welcome to football! I dont know what game you watch. that shit happens every week lol

[JohnnyV13]

Originally Posted by Pawnmower

7 points fluke td to Wilson

7 points td on drive extended by gift penalty

6 points Raiders didn't get from missed fgs , lack of Jankowski


7+7+6


14 points we got, 6 the Raiders didn't get

All handed to us via the gods...

So no, we weren't "screwed"

I wouldn't exactly call those gifts. If we're going to call some of those gifts, then the Chiefs "gifted" the Raiders with a jump ball catch at the goal line. What about (I think) Sorenson dropping an INT?

It's not a "gift" when the Chiefs special teams block a field goal. If you don't think that Cooper committed OPI on Mitchell on a flea flicker, then it's a "gift" TD for Mitchell to blow really good coverage by falling down.

[Ming the Merciless]

Originally Posted by JohnnyV13

You mean gifted by the Raiders or the refs? I didn't see 20 points gifted by the refs.

One "gift" was a crazy bounce. What was the other "gift" TD? Why were both field goals "gifts"?

If we're talking about gifts, you also have to take 7 points off the board for the Raiders when the refs picked up the flag when Cooper shoved that guy to the ground and they called phantom hold to take away Houston's beast-mode strip.

The crazy bounce, yes. That's 7 points we shouldn't have had.

The TD drive that was extended on 3rd down by the refs should've been a punt. That's 7 points we shouldn't have..but for luck/refs

The 2 FG that were shanked... that's 6 points more they should have...

To me those things are luck/gifts

I don't see how it's reasonable to conclude "we got screwed" when our D allowed 550 yards, we couldn't make a 1st down to ice the game, and we got 20 points worth of gifts.... especially when we lost by 1 point.

They beat us. Period. Yes the refs sucked but calls went both ways..there was a non face mask call, the td that Peter's flopped on and got called back...

[JohnnyV13]

Originally Posted by Pawnmower

The crazy bounce, yes. That's 7 points we shouldn't have had.

The TD drive that was extended on 3rd down by the refs should've been a punt. That's 7 points we shouldn't have..but for luck/refs

The 2 FG that were shanked... that's 6 points more they should have...

To me those things are luck/gifts

I don't see how it's reasonable to conclude "we got screwed" when our D allowed 550 yards, we couldn't make a 1st down to ice the game, and we got 20 points worth of gifts.... especially when we lost by 1 point.

They beat us. Period. Yes the refs sucked but calls went both ways..there was a non face mask call, the td that Peter's flopped on and got called back...

I'm not saying we were screwed. Chiefs crapped the bed. Granted.

I am saying the referees were awful. Really, HORRIBLE calls. I don't see a conspiracy b/c the awful calls seemed rather random. We got some. Some worked against us. The end of the game was a clown show of terrible calls.

[cmdrzman]

There goes BlackOp with his conspiracy theories again.. lol.. Dudes a piece of work.. still thinks Elvis is alive and sh*t...

If the refs wanted the "Vegas" Raiders to win, why didnt they call the Cook catch a TD with 14 seconds left? Damn sure looked like one to me... How bout the Crabtree pushoff for a TD?

I mean why would the NFL risk letting the Raiders lose with one play left on the clock? Why not just call the Crabtree pushoff a TD?

Chiefs lost.. deal with it ladies

[BlackOp]

Originally Posted by cmdrzman

There goes BlackOp with his conspiracy theories again.. lol.. Dudes a piece of work.. still thinks Elvis is alive and sh*t...

If the refs wanted the "Vegas" Raiders to win, why didnt they call the Cook catch a TD with 14 seconds left? Damn sure looked like one to me... How bout the Crabtree pushoff for a TD?

I mean why would the NFL risk letting the Raiders lose with one play left on the clock? Why not just call the Crabtree pushoff a TD?

Chiefs lost.. deal with it ladies

Yeah..brilliant bringing up "Elvis' as a false association...that's what stupid people do when they cant comment on the presented topic.

If you think a couple desperation bombs cemented your place in competing for the SB...fine. I wouldn't except less..it's what your corporate masters sold you all winter.

It did give you hope...in a false, constructed microcosm designed to extract your cash...pay them. You're gullible...it's what they are looking for...

[Ming the Merciless]

Originally Posted by BlackOp

..it's what your corporate masters told you all winter.
..

As you post this from Wal-Mart your iPhone, while wearing nikes and Levi's sipping on a Frappuccino about to get into your miata and suck on a big old sonic chili dog

[ClevelandBronco]

Originally Posted by BlackOp

Yeah..brilliant bringing up "Elvis' as a false association...that's what stupid people do when they cant comment on the presented topic.

If you think a couple desperation bombs cemented your place in competing for the SB...fine. I wouldn't except less..it's what your corporate masters sold you all winter.

It did give you hope...in a false, constructed microcosm designed to extract your cash...pay them. You're gullible...it's what they are looking for...

Elvis was a Jesuit. They only disappeared him once he got old enough and fat enough to be indoctrinated into a secret order of NFL referees. True story. You can hide your head in the sand if you don't believe me. Just don't try to bury mine.