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Old 09-14-2016, 08:25 AM  
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Chiefs release KeiVarae Russell
Rand Gettlin-I'm told the #Chiefs have released defensive back KeiVarae Russell. Special teams numbers game. Super talented player. Likely to be claimed.

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Old 09-14-2016, 04:39 PM   #466
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...or the guy just really really sucks to go along with the poor attitude. Humble him.
This is my hope.

Dorsey went out there and peddled him to every team in the league for a 2018 7th round pick to see if there was any interest. He got no takers and realized he could send the kid a message.

If he threw out trial balloons and got no nibbles, it might lead him to believe that he can actually slip him through to the practice squad to knock him down a peg. If so, I still think it's too clever by half (still a lot of risk there), but it's slightly more defensible.
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Old 09-14-2016, 04:40 PM   #467
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It's an NFL lockerroom. "Culture Cut" because the dude is cocky? Jesus, they're ALL cocky and they damn well should be. They're pretty much the most physically gifted human beings on the ****ing planet. They've spent years flat out being better than everyone they've played against.

And if your 'team leaders' are drumming the guy out for being froggy, that's a failure of existing team leadership. Then again, I'm not sure how he could've rubbed ol' Eric Berry: Super Leader the wrong way when the ****ing guy couldn't be bothered to show up. Damn shame he wasn't around to talk our rookie down a bit, eh?

If 'leadership' on this team is so sensitive that they feel compelled to complain to management about a rookie's attitude, they should probably go take a look at the trophy case again and check their own goddamn egos. None of these guys have a ring. None of them have a patent on how to conduct yourself.

If the cut him for 'culture' reasons it had better be because they caught him doing lines of coke of Alex Smith's wife's ass. Merely being cocky (when you have Marcus ****ing Peters for crying out loud) isn't grounds to cut a guy loose.
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Old 09-14-2016, 04:40 PM   #468
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Oh I get this, now you're joining in on the butthurt because you were originally so unhappy about the trade downs and Hill. That's fine, but I'm just going to call it like it is.
You'll be calling it the same way you always call it - somewhere from deep within Dorsey's ass.

You've never criticized anything this team has done so of course you won't start now.
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Old 09-14-2016, 04:41 PM   #469
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You'll be calling it the same way you always call it - somewhere from deep within Dorsey's ass.

You've never criticized anything this team has done so of course you won't start now.
Yet I clearly stated I wasn't happy about this.



It sucks, but I'm not going to cry about it after I've seen Jones, White, Murray, Hill, Ehinger, and Nicholas all look like they can turn out to be solid picks.
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Old 09-14-2016, 04:41 PM   #470
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And it makes me worry that they're getting a little too caught up in their own press clippings.

When you start to think you have all the answers, that's when you start to make decisions like this. This organization hasn't proven to have all the answers just yet.

I refuse to believe that this kid just hid the fact that he was a Keyshawn Johnson level jackass for the entire draft process only to unleash his inner prick on an unsuspecting locker room. It doesn't pass the sniff test. I just think he was your standard froggy kid. Add that with some entitlement from 'vested' leaders and arrogance from management that's not shown itself to be immune to mistakes and you have the recipe for a decision made for the wrong reasons.

It may work out. Hell, it probably will work out - 3rd rounders are lottery tickets and MOST bust. But I don't care for the process here at all.
Again, spot on.
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Old 09-14-2016, 04:41 PM   #471
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But I don't care for the process here at all.
If it turns out to be something petty, then I'd agree but it's very difficult to make any kind of determination at this point because we, the fans, don't have any facts.

If it turns out it was something serious with the coaching staff, especially a HOFer like Emmitt Thomas, then releasing him is acceptable.

If the guy isn't claimed or claimed but released again, the indication would be that he's the problem, not the process or the Chiefs.

Again, it's too early but Reid surely sounded like a man ready to move on.
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Old 09-14-2016, 04:42 PM   #472
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Again, spot on.
It's only spot on if he's right.

If Russell is gigantic, uncoachable asshole, then the Chiefs made the right decision.

Time will tell.

Regardless, he never earned a roster spot, IMO.
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Old 09-14-2016, 04:42 PM   #473
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It's obvious he was cut because right now he's an awful football player and he won't listen to the coaches to work on his shortcomings.
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Old 09-14-2016, 04:43 PM   #474
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If I'm Russell there is no way I am agreeing to a Practice Squad spot with the team that just cut me from my 3rd round pick salary and then is offering me peanuts on the PS. Unless of course they have some agreement to pay him more, but still the Chiefs basically just denied him 3rd round cash why would he stay here.
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It's only spot on if he's right.

If Russell is gigantic, uncoachable asshole, then the Chiefs made the right decision.

Time will tell.

Regardless, he never earned a roster spot, IMO.
True

But if that's the case, why the hell would you draft him early?
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My sources telling me he didn't want to stand for the national anthem on Sunday, so the Chiefs released.....
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It's only spot on if he's right.

If Russell is gigantic, uncoachable asshole, then the Chiefs made the right decision.

Time will tell.

Regardless, he never earned a roster spot, IMO.
There has never been a bigger jackass than Aqib Talib, a guy that was cut from multiple rosters for being a gigantic, uncoachable asshole. He adds being a drunk pothead to the mix.

He's also been a hell of a football player and in the end, production wins out.

Guys will put up with ANYTHING if you produce. And no, Russell didn't produce but they also cut him before he got a chance to prove that he could.

Give him a year as an inactive (or even on the damn IR) and maybe he learns some valuable lessons there. But hey, I'd like to again chalk one up to Eric Berry's supreme leadership skills. If a guy wants to get paid for his intangibles, you'd like to think he could at least convince a 3rd rounder to not talk his way off the team.
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All of the outstanding moves Dorsey has made over the years, and he needs to be crucified over this?

Whatever, have at it... guess we need something to talk about
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But if that's the case, why the hell would you draft him early?
EXACTLY.

As DJ said, this kid didn't just hide being an asshole during the draft process, just to spring it on the locker room come camp.
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There has never been a bigger jackass than Aqib Talib, a guy that was cut from multiple rosters for being a gigantic, uncoachable asshole. He adds being a drunk pothead to the mix.

He's also been a hell of a football player and in the end, production wins out.

Guys will put up with ANYTHING if you produce. And no, Russell didn't produce but they also cut him before he got a chance to prove that he could.

Give him a year as an inactive (or even on the damn IR) and maybe he learns some valuable lessons there. But hey, I'd like to again chalk one up to Eric Berry's supreme leadership skills. If a guy wants to get paid for his intangibles, you'd like to think he could at least convince a 3rd rounder to not talk his way off the team.
I can't even begin to describe how pissed I would be if they brought Talib onto this team. So apparently we just have different perspectives.
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