Chiefs vs. Bills discussion thread...

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Now that the preseason is over finally, the real bullets start to fly!

Who wins? What matchups can we take advantage of? How do we matchup with their offense, defense, special teams?

We must beat them. My wife's aunt is a big fan and she's as annoying as their uniforms.

[diqlix]

You guys are absolutely delusional. The Bills have a decent QB, a very good RB combo, one of the best up and coming WR's in the league (St. Jonson), a top 5 DT (Kyle Williams), the best DT in college football last year (Dareus), Merriman (who has 3 sacks in 2 pre-season games), Nick Barnett (SB Champion last year), Drayton Florence (Jets wanted him, but we got him haha!), and the rest of our secondary (3rd in the NFL last year).

The Bills got worse? HUH? Insanity. The Chiefs BARELY beat a crappier Bills team last year by 3 points, after rushing for over 200 yards!

Don't worry, I don't talk smack and then hide. I'll be here right after the game. Bash me all you want - the Bills will win by a TD or more.

PS) Haley made a huge mistake in firing Gailey. He may not be the most glamorous Coach in the world, but that man can sure as heck run an offense.

[BigCatDaddy]

My prediction......

We gonna put something on their ass!

I'm thinking 20-3 Chiefs. Bills can't move the ball with that line, Hali and DJ cause a few turnovers and Charles is well Charles.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by daquix

You guys are absolutely delusional. The Bills have a decent QB, a very good RB combo, one of the best up and coming WR's in the league (St. Jonson), a top 5 DT (Kyle Williams), the best DT in college football last year (Dareus), Merriman (who has 3 sacks in 2 pre-season games), Nick Barnett (SB Champion last year), Drayton Florence (Jets wanted him, but we got him haha!), and the rest of our secondary (3rd in the NFL last year).

The Bills got worse? HUH? Insanity. The Chiefs BARELY beat a crappier Bills team last year by 3 points, after rushing for over 200 yards!

Don't worry, I don't talk smack and then hide. I'll be here right after the game. Bash me all you want - the Bills will win by a TD or more.

I like Fred Jackson, but CJ Spiller hasn't shown he's anything special, and certainly didn't live up to his draft position.

I do think your D-Line is going to be very good, and if Merriman and Barnett can play at a high level, and stay healthy, your front 7 is very good.

However, Merriman has missed more games than he's played in the last three years, and hasn't produced at the same level since he was busted for steroids.

Meanwhile, Nick Barnett has finished 2 of the last 3 seasons on IR.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

So, we are delusional for thinking KC can beat a last place team Last years game is completely irrelevant at this point. I guess you'll only lose to the Ravens by 3 every game and Stevie Johnson will drop a game winner against the Steelers every time according to this brilliant "logic".

When the real bullets fly Charles won't only recieve 2 carries while a bunch of guys are cycled in trying to show what they've got. I could give a rat's ass about Roidman's preseason numbers. The Chiefs pass pro worries me against everyone though, but I have confidence this team can run on anybody.
The Bills appear to have improved the front 7, but guess what the Chiefs AVERAGED about 200 yards a game rushing at home last year. KC pass rush should eat that Bills O-line alive.

[notorious]

I agree with him on the Gailey part.


That guy made chicken salad out of chicken shit with Thigpin.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by notorious

I agree with him on the Gailey part.


That guy made chicken salad out of chicken shit with Thigpin.

I agree that Gailey is a very smart and creative offensive mind.

However, if the OC's philsophy doesn't mesh with the HC's, then it is incumbent upon the OC to adjust to the HC.

If he can't so that, then he has no business doing the job for that HC.

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by milkman

I agree that Gailey is a very smart and creative offensive mind.

However, if the OC's philsophy doesn't mesh with the HC's, then it is incumbent upon the OC to adjust to the HC.

If he can't so that, then he has no business doing the job for that HC.

What exactly is the HC's philosophy?

[Rooster]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

What exactly is the HC's philosophy?

Bat Shit Crazy...Baby...... Yeah!!!!

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

What exactly is the HC's philosophy?

It appears to be to coach the strength of the team which is to run the ball and not turn it over. I don't know for a fact, but I would guess Charlie wanted to air it out a little more and take more chances.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

It appears to be to coach the strength of the team which is to run the ball and not turn it over. I don't know for a fact, but I would guess Charlie wanted to air it out a little more and take more chances.

That's what Haley wants to do. That's what he tried to do against Baltimore.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

It appears to be to coach the strength of the team which is to run the ball and not turn it over. I don't know for a fact, but I would guess Charlie wanted to air it out a little more and take more chances.

I think that's part of it, but I also think that Haley likes to use the middle of the field more in the passing game than Weis.

As for Gailey, Haley prefers more plays out of the pro set, setting up better opportunities for big plays out of play action, while Gailey really wanted to mask Cassel's weakness as a pro set QB by using a lot more spread.

I would guess, and this is only a guess, that Haley felt the best way to develop Cassel in the pro set was to actually use it in games.

[feldspar]

Originally Posted by milkman

However, Merriman has missed more games than he's played in the last three years, and hasn't produced at the same level since he was busted for steroids.

Actually, that's not true. In his first two years in the league, Merriman tested clean on 19 of 20 random tests for performance-enhancing drugs. He was suspended his second year for 4 games, but he made All-Pro anyway. He also made All-Pro his third year, when you know damn well he couldn't have been doing steroids...probably not for most of his second year, too, as he tested positive in early October.

Anyway, he's always maintained that he believes the substance he tested positive for was the anabolic steroid nandrolone, contained in a nutritional supplement he took regularly. Granted, that could very well be a lie. It could also be true.

The point is that it's been injuries that have hindered Merriman's production...not "quitting steroids." It's pretty much proven, to my satisfaction at least. The question is whether he can recover from those injures and to what degree, not that the only reason he ever had success was because he was on steroids bullshit some people assume.

I haven't seen the guy physically get any smaller or anything, either. The guy works out like crazy.

[kysirsoze]

Originally Posted by feldspar

Actually, that's not true. In his first two years in the league, Merriman tested clean on 19 of 20 random tests for performance-enhancing drugs. He was suspended his second year for 4 games, but he made All-Pro anyway. He also made All-Pro his third year, when you know damn well he couldn't have been doing steroids...probably not for most of his second year, too, as he tested positive in early October.

Anyway, he's always maintained that he believes the substance he tested positive for was the anabolic steroid nandrolone, contained in a nutritional supplement he took regularly. Granted, that could very well be a lie. It could also be true.

The point is that it's been injuries that have hindered Merriman's production...not "quitting steroids." It's pretty much proven, to my satisfaction at least. The question is whether he can recover from those injures and to what degree, not that the only reason he ever had success was because he was on steroids bullshit some people assume.

I haven't seen the guy physically get any smaller or anything, either. The guy works out like crazy.

The guy basically ended Priest Holmes career with a helmet to helmet hit while he was taking "nutritional supplements". He will get nothing but hatred on this site.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by feldspar

Actually, that's not true. In his first two years in the league, Merriman tested clean on 19 of 20 random tests for performance-enhancing drugs. He was suspended his second year for 4 games, but he made All-Pro anyway. He also made All-Pro his third year, when you know damn well he couldn't have been doing steroids...probably not for most of his second year, too, as he tested positive in early October.

Anyway, he's always maintained that he believes the substance he tested positive for was the anabolic steroid nandrolone, contained in a nutritional supplement he took regularly. Granted, that could very well be a lie. It could also be true.

The point is that it's been injuries that have hindered Merriman's production...not "quitting steroids." It's pretty much proven, to my satisfaction at least. The question is whether he can recover from those injures and to what degree, not that the only reason he ever had success was because he was on steroids bullshit some people assume.

I haven't seen the guy physically get any smaller or anything, either. The guy works out like crazy.

He had 17 sacks in his second year in 12 games.

He had 12.5 sacks in 15 games his third year.

That's a pretty fair dropoff in production, and he has done nothing since.

[boogblaster]

Originally Posted by kysirsoze

The guy basically ended Priest Holmes career with a helmet to helmet hit while he was taking "nutritional supplements". He will get nothing but hatred on this site.

yep he'b hated .. always will be ....