It's been a long time coming. Adiós.

[OnTheWarpath15]

It's time for me to bow out. It's been almost 10 years, and I'm tired.

Tired of the false narratives. Tired of people arguing the poster instead of the post. Tired of discussing football with people who favor excuses over evidence. Tired of wasting time talking about an organization that hasn't won a playoff game in the lifetime of a college senior. Tired of watching other great posters leaving entirely or posting less, weakening the Football IQ this place was known for 5-10 years ago.

I know posting a thread instead of just walking away will open the door for many to take their cheap shots - we all know who they are - and if you don't, just wait. They'll show themselves. Those of you that know me privately know this has been building for a long time.

With all that said, I'll say what I've always said: This team has talent, but will continually fall short as long as they keep thinking you can win in the postseason consistently with average QB play. You don't put enough pressure on the opposing defense, and it puts too much pressure on your defense - if they don't have a near-perfect day, you lose.

Peters and Conley were great picks and should make an impact in the years to come. Should be fun to watch. (What? According to some, I NEVER say anything positive - just another false narrative) While I doubt he'll get his shot, I'd like to see if Murray can be that franchise guy, or if he fell for reasons other than what people here assume - namely, his height and injury history. Hopefully they get Houston signed long-term, because if they don't they are in deep, deep shit. The defense tends to carry this team, and Houston is the most important cog in said defense.

I've made a lot of great friends here that are still friends to this day, and will continue to be. This place was awesome when it was more community based - when there would be gatherings, tailgates, etc. Now, it's littered with trolls that take advantage of the anonymity of the internet and would never show their face in public. That attitude has weakened this place considerably, IMHO.

For those of you I call a friend, we'll be in touch. If anyone that isn't already a friend privately or on Facebook/Twitter wants to continue to keep in touch, I'll keep my PM's open for a week or so.

Thanks, Kyle. It was fun for a while. Queue the "well, bye/sour grapes" posts in 3...2...1.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Jackonsville never really recovered from the abortion that was drafting Blaine Gabbert.

Jacksonville never really recovered from firing Tom Coughlin

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Like I said some have softened on thd 1st round thing and yes the little lands on green on occasion but odds say get and develop your own guy is the best way to go to advance in the playoffs. Id prefer to not go with your Sun Shines On A Dogs Ass philosophy.

Andy Dalton says "Hi".

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Andy Dalton says "Hi".

Hi Andy.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Hi Andy.

You literally have amongst the worst football opinions in this forum.

The worst.

You and Discuss should bunk at UMKC.

Further education would do you some good.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Mediocre stability over guts and glory?

Guts and glory, please.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

You literally have amongst the worst football opinions in this forum.

The worst.

You and Discuss should bunk at UMKC.

Further education would do you some good.

No idea what Dalton has to do with 88% of the final 8 teams last season having a home grown QB.

But there are others ways folks!

[Bearcat]

It's hard to call someone dumb while while using a "what about that one guy" black and white argument, but it can be done.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

It's hard to call someone dumb while while using a "what about that one guy" black and white argument, but it can be done.

The fact of the matter is that Chiefsplanet has a become a forum that hates all QB's unless they're Hall of Fame QB's. That's it. No one else will do.

Manning, Rodgers, Brees, Brady - that's pretty much it. Everyone else is complete and utter crap. It's a stupid narrative yet every single thread, regardless of the topic these days, devolves into an "Alex Smith Sucks" thread.

It's a waste of time.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The fact of the matter is that Chiefsplanet has a become a forum that hates all QB's unless they're Hall of Fame QB's. That's it. No one else will do.

Manning, Rodgers, Brees, Brady - that's pretty much it. Everyone else is complete and utter crap. It's a stupid narrative yet every single thread, regardless of the topic these days, devolves into an "Alex Smith Sucks" thread.

It's a waste of time.

Yeah, that's pretty much what the NFL has become these days, and it sucks... and 30 years of not developing arguably the most important position in all of team sports is going to cause some frustration with those who are for some reason still around.

Hyperbole aside, I think plenty of people recognize what Alex Smith brings to the table.

[ptlyon]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

Hyperbole aside, I think plenty of people recognize what Alex Smith brings to the table.

What. A ****ing fork?

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by ptlyon

What. A ****ing fork?

~11 win seasons, where the bar has been set for 4 decades.

[ptlyon]

If they learned so well 30 years ago not to draft a qb in the 1st, you'd think they'd have learned their lesson about broke dick ones from San Francisco.

[Eleazar]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The fact of the matter is that Chiefsplanet has a become a forum that hates all QB's unless they're Hall of Fame QB's. That's it. No one else will do.

Manning, Rodgers, Brees, Brady - that's pretty much it. Everyone else is complete and utter crap. It's a stupid narrative yet every single thread, regardless of the topic these days, devolves into an "Alex Smith Sucks" thread.

It's a waste of time.

Yes, exactly.

It's hard to imagine how near 100% of this place can regard him as one of the league's worst starters when he was a muffed punt away from the Super Bowl and has been rated 90 or better for four years straight. (And of course was a fabled first round QB)

There's no connection between the board's "We won't be satisfied with anything less than our own Brady" and the fact that this place has been almost universally wrong about QBs. Of course, that's not hard to imagine - most QBs fail. But CP proves every year anew that it knows nothing about evaluating them.

It's been almost 15 years since Brady appeared on the scene and still, maybe two teams have found what CP would consider an acceptable QB.

I suppose you have to find some way to go on playing football.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Cochise

Yes, exactly.

It's hard to imagine how near 100% of this place can regard him as one of the league's worst starters when he was a muffed punt away from the Super Bowl and has been rated 90 or better for four years straight. (And of course was a fabled first round QB)

There's no connection between the board's "We won't be satisfied with anything less than our own Brady" and the fact that this place has been almost universally wrong about QBs. Of course, that's not hard to imagine - most QBs fail. But CP proves every year anew that it knows nothing about evaluating them.

It's been almost 15 years since Brady appeared on the scene and still, maybe two teams have found what CP would consider an acceptable QB.

I suppose you have to find some way to go on playing football.

I see why the guy left with shit like this being posted.

[ViperVisor]

-NFL teams drafted 27 quarterbacks in the first round in the last 10 years.
Only once in the last 10 years did less than two quarterbacks go in the first round (Buffalo’s EJ Manuel was the only one in 2013).
-Of the 27 first-round QBs on this list, just 12 are expected to start in this weekend’s NFL games, with only nine playing for the team that drafted them.
-Eight of the 27 quarterbacks have won a playoff game to this point in their careers.

And "develop" a QB is more or less BS.

You get one and develop the roster around him. Mold an offense to his strengths is the best you can do.

Michael Vick? All the time and effort to make the investment pay off. Never changed.
Quincy Carter?
David Carr?
Joey Harrington?
Patrick Ramsey?
Rex Grossman?
Byron Leftwich?
Kyle Boller?
Jay Cutler?
Matt Leinart?
Vince Young?
Tarvaris Jackson?
Brady Quinn?
JaMarcus Russell?
Chad Henne?
Brian Brohm?
Matthew Stafford?
Mark Sanchez?
Josh Freeman?
Tim Tebow?
Cam Newton?
Jake Locker?
Blaine Gabbert?
Christian Ponder?
Andy Dalton?
Colin Kaepernick
Ryan Mallett?
Robert Griffin?
EJ Manuel?
Geno Smith?

Those teams didn't really care to "develop" the QB right? They put the draft on autopick and happened to get these QBs?
All had or have seen their play never take off, plateau, regress or crash and burn. The NFL is not Madden. The NFL is not Pokemon.
Typically you are who we thought they were. In time it will reveal.

List the QBs that have developed?
Tannehill? Because he wasn't even playing the friggin position until his Junior year.
Russell Wilson?
David Garrard?
Matt Schaub?
Aaron Rodgers?
Alex Smith?