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Old 09-14-2016, 08:25 AM  
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Chiefs release KeiVarae Russell

Rand Gettlin-I'm told the #Chiefs have released defensive back KeiVarae Russell. Special teams numbers game. Super talented player. Likely to be claimed.

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Old 09-15-2016, 02:34 PM   #571
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All of these teams definitely passed on him:

L.A. Rams
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Old 09-15-2016, 02:46 PM   #572
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Old 09-15-2016, 02:47 PM   #573
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Old 09-15-2016, 02:48 PM   #574
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Well, this is definitely a move we'll be dissecting for years. Dorsey's gonna take a lot of flak if he ends up being a contributor.
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Old 09-15-2016, 02:50 PM   #575
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Old 09-15-2016, 02:50 PM   #576
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Well he coulden't play OG so no time to develope and holding out for a few bucks he'll be alright.
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Old 09-15-2016, 02:50 PM   #577
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Old 09-15-2016, 02:53 PM   #578
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23 teams passed
Does that include the Chiefs?

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Old 09-15-2016, 03:02 PM   #579
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This whole Russell thing is odd. Giving up on a 3rd round pick this soon is rather unusual; on the other hand, if the Chiefs simply took the approach of looking at the least productive member on the roster, well, it'd be hard to find a lesser productive player than Russell. Either he couldn't or wouldn't play special teams, he was having difficulty picking up "the system", he apparently ran his mouth far beyond the norm for a non-productive rookie, and the coaches obviously felt he was the worst CB on the team and were not enamoured with his "potential".

If they felt Moses was needed to shore up the OLB position, then they needed to drop someone. Lo and behold, that someone was Russell. I guess they could've dropped an OL, but the numbers were already a little thin in that position. Could've dropped a TE, but they like the 3 TE sets, so that wasn't going to happen. Wouldn't make much sense to drop a runner what with Charles still a bit banged up.

All in all, Russell didn't do anything to distinguish himself (other than run his mouth), so they simply cut the guy. Too bad he was a 3rd round selection, but sometimes you just flat miss on a guy.

Would this consitute a "football decision", or am I just trying to build a case using minimal facts and a bunch of guessing? In any event, it is unusual to see a 3rd rounder cut this early. Hmmmm...
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Old 09-15-2016, 03:06 PM   #580
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This is pretty plain to me.

Why would Andy Reid specifically say this was a football decision? When you cut a young player, why else would it happen?

Why would Andy Reid repeatedly say "he's a good kid," when no one was saying otherwise?

The lines are pretty ****ing easy to read through on this one.

"This was a football decision." (this was not a football decision)

"He's a good kid." (he did something bad)

Why anyone thinks this has anything to do with his play on the field is beyond me. The guy's going to get hit with PEDs or a domestic violence charge or counterfeiting Canadian money and using it to proposition LDT. It's going to be something... just a matter of time until it comes out.
No offense...but that's speculative bullshit.
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Old 09-15-2016, 03:12 PM   #581
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All players on the PS treated as free agents? If that had been the goal and KC had managed to get him to the PS, can other teams still talk/sign him?
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Old 09-15-2016, 03:15 PM   #582
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23 teams passed
According to Paylor, the Bengals were slotted at #24, which means that 24 teams, including the Chiefs, passed on the guy.

Considering his cap number is about $450k this year and all of the winless teams passed on him, there's got to be something about the guy that teams don't like.
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Old 09-15-2016, 03:16 PM   #583
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No offense...but that's speculative bullshit.
none taken. It's speculative, but it's the only thing that remotely makes sense to me.
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Old 09-15-2016, 03:17 PM   #584
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I guess whomever took the under on 6 won out. The Bengals know good defensive players. I'll be curious as to where this kid is at in the next 2-3 years.
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Old 09-15-2016, 03:21 PM   #585
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The Bengals have been able to work with players with issues. Not that it's won them anything.....but I'd bet that Russell works out for them.
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