PROOF that Dufus Rawes is Carl Peterson...

[memyselfI]

????

If you saw CP ordaining Gannon as Hall of Fame worthy on the NFL Total Access then this article glorifying Gannon on the KC CHIEFS official website should come as no surprise a few weeks later.

Dang, first Carl is a geneous I've underestimated and now Dufus???

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2005/06...r_rich_Gannon/

DAWES: WE REMEMBER RICH GANNON
Jun 07, 2005, 4:48:26 PM by Media Watch by Rufus Dawes



The nation’s sports press was out in force last week waiting for the other shoe to drop for some aging highly paid NFL veterans who had become expendable. It was a short list but to tell you the truth June 1 ain’t what it used to be for a voracious media hungering for some news to fill their notebooks this time of year. June 1 is just a starting date when teams can expel players without having the contract acceleration count toward this year’s salary cap.



One name missing from the list was veteran quarterback Rich Gannon, who it is expected will retire at some undetermined date prior to the opening of the season. When or where it is announced – and don’t expect the automatons in Oakland to reveal the news just for spite – it’ll likely be marked with accolades, which is a far cry from how he entered the league back in 1987.

Gannon best exemplified the journeyman signal caller, a fact that some media in the Bay Area made clear when they ordained his leaving Oakland, a team he had played for over the past six years. All totaled, he played 17 seasons for four teams, and one columnist went so far as to suggest that if the Raiders should one day construct a Hall of Fame Gannon should be in it.

Neil Hayes, writing on the San Jose Mercury News web site, noted, however, that despite his success Gannon “never stirred the passions of some of the NFL’s most passionate fans.” (April 26, 2005) He was talking about the Raiders fans and it got me thinking how passionate Chiefs fans were for Gannon when he played here and how heartbroken some were when he left, passed over, as it appeared, for Elvis Grbac, who fans never really took to in any meaningful way.

Rich Gannon was a quarterback at the University of Delaware but when he was drafted by the New England Patriots the team wanted him to play defensive back, something he never accepted, and he was traded to the Minnesota Vikings and eventually became the team’s starting quarterback until Denny Green took over as coach and traded him to Washington.

His started for the Redskins for a season but the following year he was out of the game and it was widely believed his career was over.

Although no one’s said it, his career and ultimately his reputation were revived by the Kansas City Chiefs personnel office, primarily Terry Bradway and Carl Peterson, who knew Gannon from their days in Philadelphia, Gannon’s hometown, and by Paul Hackett, who taught him the West Coast offense which eventually helped land him in Oakland. playing for Jon Gruden who had been a Hackett disciple. For all that has been written about Gannon since that time, a review of past news articles shows his arrival in Kansas City attracted almost no attention.

As a runaround, athletic quarterback he seemed the perfect fit for a backup role to Steve Bono. He eventually supplanted Bono in that horrible 10-7 playoff loss to Indianapolis almost bringing the team back to victory; two years later he took the reins when Grbac got hurt and helped the team achieve a 13-3 season. When the Chiefs lost to Denver in the 1997 playoffs, some went so far as to suggest that had Gannon been the starter and not Grbac, who was just returning from injury, the team may have won and been on its way to its first Super Bowl in 27 years.

As we look back on it now, Gannon was just what the team and its fans needed.

He burst into an atmosphere laden with uncertainty and doubt, genial, swaggering, confident, the precise figure of reassurance for a troubled town that had a habit of criticizing its quarterbacks. By temperament and character, Gannon was suited to emergencies: players reacted to him in the locker room and on the field. He could make things happen. Moreover, his persona was just the antidote to the aloof Bono and the stoic Grbac.

There are some things that have great value but no glitter. That was Gannon. Consistent, long-suffering, patient, industrious, good-humored, loyal, he made an enormous contribution to the well-being of the team. When he left, there was an outcry from many fans especially after the eventual disappointment of Grbac. Gannon’s rise to league MVP and trips to four consecutive Pro Bowls and one Super Bowl only sought to make his loss to Kansas City hurt even more.

Writing about Gannon and the effect he had on the always contentious Raiders, Hayes believed:

“Gannon was largely responsible for setting the standard that elevated the team to the top of the AFC. He had been the one holding this fractured group together. It wasn’t until he was injured and missed the season that everything came apart. He deserves to be mentioned among the franchise’s all-time greats.”

Hayes went on to say that for Oakland “he may not have been everything fans wanted him to be,” which probably sounds odd when those of us in Kansas City hear it said. He was everything we wanted in a quarterback and only someone as accomplished and team-oriented as Trent Green can make his loss easier to bear now. (F-ing brilliant!!!)

The opinions offered in this column do not necessarily reflect those of the Kansas City Chiefs. (yeah, right!!! )

[WilliamTheIrish]

Originally Posted by chiefkdawg

Dumb maybe, but true and you know it

Face it, Grbac sucked. Thats why he was riding the pine in Bal. contemplating retirement(which he did) while Gannon tossed int's in the SUPER BOWL.

And in the end all the Gannon folks (who cannot let it go even though we're working on 10 years now) can say is "At least Rich got to throw INT's in the SB."

That's fab.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by chiefkdawg

Dumb maybe, but true and you know it

Face it, Grbac sucked. Thats why he was riding the pine in Bal. contemplating retirement(which he did) while Gannon tossed int's in the SUPER BOWL.

What? That doesn't even make any sense.

7 wins, 2 losses = 78%
6 wins, 1 loss = 86%
13 wins, 3 losses = 81%

Face it, it DOES NOT MATTER who was playing QB. That team was predicated on defense, running the ball, and was coached by Marty. BOTH QB's produced identical results in the regular season, and NEITHER of them was going to produce a victory in the playoffs.

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by chiefkdawg

Thats why he was riding the pine in Bal. contemplating retirement(which he did)

I didn't get to see all the Ravens games then, but IIRC Grbac started the whole year he was there. He had a 2 part signing bonus with the Ravens, and they declined to pick up his 2nd year, which in effect cut him loose. At least that is the way I recalled it going down.

[Hammock Parties]

Grbac had a pretty good playoff game, too. We lost that game because Denver ran all over us while we gained only 77 yards rushing with 3.2 ypc.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Boy do I LOVE re-living this experience.

[sarcasm]It's like we get new perspectives each time.[/sarcasm]

[chiefkdawg]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

What? That doesn't even make any sense.

7 wins, 2 losses = 78%
6 wins, 1 loss = 86%
13 wins, 3 losses = 81%

Face it, it DOES NOT MATTER who was playing QB. That team was predicated on defense, running the ball, and was coached by Marty. BOTH QB's produced identical results in the regular season, and NEITHER of them was going to produce a victory in the playoffs.

I respect your opinion. Again, the QB is the leader of the team
86% is better than 78%, not identical
the team had a higher avg of pts scored with Gannon
He just looked more comfortable running the offense than Grbac did. Just because Gannon was a little more mobile.

I think we could have scored more than 10 pts. against Den. without a rusty Grbac in there

[chiefkdawg]

Originally Posted by Coogs

I didn't get to see all the Ravens games then, but IIRC Grbac started the whole year he was there. He had a 2 part signing bonus with the Ravens, and they declined to pick up his 2nd year, which in effect cut him loose. At least that is the way I recalled it going down.

yes thats right , my bad

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by chiefkdawg

I respect your opinion. Again, the QB is the leader of the team
86% is better than 78%, not identical
the team had a higher avg of pts scored with Gannon
He just looked more comfortable running the offense than Grbac did. Just because Gannon was a little more mobile.

I think we could have scored more than 10 pts. against Den. without a rusty Grbac in there

Grbac had a TD to Gonzalez that was called out of bounds but clearly Tyrone Braxton pushed him out.

And there was a phantom holding call on Greg Manusky on one of Stoyo's made field goals and then after the penalty was tacked on, he shanked the next one.

You are really nitpicking if you think a 6-2 record and a 7-1 record is a major difference. As HTIS said, this team was predicated on defense.

[chiefkdawg]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Grbac had a TD to Gonzalez that was called out of bounds but clearly Tyrone Braxton pushed him out.

And there was a phantom holding call on Greg Manusky on one of Stoyo's made field goals and then after the penalty was tacked on, he shanked the next one.

You are really nitpicking if you think a 6-2 record and a 7-1 record is a major difference. As HTIS said, this team was predicated on defense.

Nah, not a major difference, I just think Gannon had more guts than Grbac.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Originally Posted by chiefkdawg

Nah, not a major difference, I just think Gannon had more guts than Grbac.

Hell you'll find more guts inside a cantelope than you'll find inside Grbhack.

[memyselfI]

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish

And in the end all the Gannon folks (who cannot let it go even though we're working on 10 years now) can say is "At least Rich got to throw INT's in the SB."

That's fab.

Yep. You actually have to GET to a SB to throw an interception (let alone many) in a SB.

It might not be much for Gannon but it's a heckuva lot more than his old team(s) have.

[memyselfI]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

Hey, you know, something just occurred to me.

If Denise likes Gannon and Peterson likes Gannon, then Denise is Carl. And Rufus Dawes.

The secret's out.

Except that I haven't been in denial about it for the past 7 years.

[King_Chief_Fan]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Not one football post all offseason. We signed Patrick Surtain, Kendrell Bell, Sammy Knight, and Carlos Hall. We drafted Derrick Johnson.

Yet, Denise' first post of the offseason is to bash Carl for not keeping a career journeyman that has done nothing but set the NFL record for Super Bowl INT's returned for TDs.

Your comment is right on and deserves rep

[WilliamTheIrish]

Originally Posted by memyselfI

Yep. You actually have to GET to a SB to throw an interception (let alone many) in a SB.

It might not be much for Gannon but it's a heckuva lot more than his old team(s) have.

I don't give a flying expletive about Grbac, Gannon or the woman who has the obsession for him. It's been almost 10 years and here you are whining and moaning about the decision to keep Grbac over the guy who gives your flaps an electric tingle.

You're pathetic.

[Saulbadguy]

**** Rich Gannon.