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Old 06-22-2006, 08:53 PM  
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McPhee Of Idol Show Has Bulimia...

There was an argument raging about whether she was fat or thin, and there were a few different pics posted of her that seemed to support both sides. This might help explain:

McPhee one of millions with bulimia
Disease 'goes through society'

Thursday, June 22, 2006; Posted: 7:15 p.m. EDT (23:15 GMT)

(CNN) -- Katharine McPhee's revelation that she has battled bulimia puts the American Idol runner-up in the company of millions of Americans.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/HEALTH/condi...cnn_topstories
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Old 06-30-2006, 07:50 AM   #46
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I understand you're point about other people's standards contributing to the eating disorders. I think they do. But as you point out here, it's a mental disorder. It would continue even without outside stimulus.
The mental disorder would continue without outside stimulus - true.

It might not manifest itself as an eating disorder, however.

For instance, my mother and her twin sister both have OCD. My mother is a "cleaner". Her house is immaculate - she vacuums at least once a day EVERY day. My aunt is a "germophobe". Lysol, anti-bacterical soap, the whole bit. Both of them have a similar mental disorder, a genetic predisposition to OCD. Several people in my family have it. Including their mother.

Their mother was a farm wife. To say the house was "disorganized" is probably being kind. She couldn't have been farther from the "cleaner" and "germophobe" archetypes. So why did they manifest the way they did? Could it be the environment they grew up in?
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Old 06-30-2006, 08:37 AM   #47
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Old 06-30-2006, 08:41 AM   #48
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The mental disorder would continue without outside stimulus - true.

It might not manifest itself as an eating disorder, however.

For instance, my mother and her twin sister both have OCD. My mother is a "cleaner". Her house is immaculate - she vacuums at least once a day EVERY day. My aunt is a "germophobe". Lysol, anti-bacterical soap, the whole bit. Both of them have a similar mental disorder, a genetic predisposition to OCD. Several people in my family have it. Including their mother.

Their mother was a farm wife. To say the house was "disorganized" is probably being kind. She couldn't have been farther from the "cleaner" and "germophobe" archetypes. So why did they manifest the way they did? Could it be the environment they grew up in?
Hmmm...

So you became a network admin nazi, and BB mod...how interesting!
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Old 06-30-2006, 09:20 AM   #49
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Hmmm...

So you became a network admin nazi, and BB mod...how interesting!


Interestingly enough, I don't have OCD. Years of living with an obsessive cause me to develop ADD.
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Old 06-30-2006, 09:26 AM   #50
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Interestingly enough, I don't have OCD. Years of living with an obsessive cause me to develop ADD.
uh-huh, sure ...
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Old 06-30-2006, 09:29 AM   #51
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uh-huh, sure ...
I never developed the compulsion component.
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Old 06-30-2006, 11:07 AM   #52
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I never developed the compulsion component.
20% of all people with OCD have no compusions... But unless you're having to lock your door 4 times every night, or can't stop thinking about horrible things happening, chances are you're just a neatfreak.

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Old 06-30-2006, 02:45 PM   #54
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20% of all people with OCD have no compusions... But unless you're having to lock your door 4 times every night, or can't stop thinking about horrible things happening, chances are you're just a neatfreak.

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Can you really have Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder without the compulsive part?
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Can you really have Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder without the compulsive part?
it was a trick, he actually said "compusions"

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The mental disorder would continue without outside stimulus - true.

It might not manifest itself as an eating disorder, however.

For instance, my mother and her twin sister both have OCD. My mother is a "cleaner". Her house is immaculate - she vacuums at least once a day EVERY day. My aunt is a "germophobe". Lysol, anti-bacterical soap, the whole bit. Both of them have a similar mental disorder, a genetic predisposition to OCD. Several people in my family have it. Including their mother.

Their mother was a farm wife. To say the house was "disorganized" is probably being kind. She couldn't have been farther from the "cleaner" and "germophobe" archetypes. So why did they manifest the way they did? Could it be the environment they grew up in?

Sure, I understand that. The human mind is incredibly complex and I have no idea why people develop particular compulsions over others. I think once the compulsion is developed it's not going to morph into another direction without some serious therapy, though. I don't believe a person with an eating disorder would respond by converting it because no one else is there to compare herself to.
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Can you really have Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder without the compulsive part?
Yes, the DSM doesn't say its necessary, though as I said before, 80% of peoople do.

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I don't sag much at all. I'm still young, though so...

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Sure, I understand that. The human mind is incredibly complex and I have no idea why people develop particular compulsions over others. I think once the compulsion is developed it's not going to morph into another direction without some serious therapy, though. I don't believe a person with an eating disorder would respond by converting it because no one else is there to compare herself to.
Ah, I wasn't implying that a person with an eating disorder would CHANGE. Sorry. I was implying they likely wouldn't develop an eating disorder in the 1st place.
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Can you really have Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder without the compulsive part?
It's not OCD without the O and the C. Someone like me, who has no obvious outward compulsion is classified as clinically obsessive.

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20% of all people with OCD have no compusions... But unless you're having to lock your door 4 times every night, or can't stop thinking about horrible things happening, chances are you're just a neatfreak.

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Actually, I'm not a neatfreak at all. It's no coincidence that I'm the opposite, I'm not neat at all.

Like I said, I have ADD. That, combined with obsession, is pretty interesting. For instance, I brought up in an XBox 360 thread that I only play one game at a time. I actually sometimes get games and play all the way through them in less than a week before moving on to the next one.
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