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Old 03-20-2007, 04:45 PM   #1
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In my experience minorities have never been interested in obscuring their differences entirely. They simply don't want to be judged by them.
Heh, you mean like finding out how certain ethnic backgrounds vote, earn a living, get a haircut, ect?

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Again, I think you're asking an awful lot of ANY group of people who have been stripped of their culture when you suggest they abandon what's left of their heritage to embrace Americana in all its glory (which in many ways has contributed to what they lack culturally).
I never said said it should be abandoned, quite the opposite actually. I just do not see the need to constantly remind everyone, especially when all too often it is rather evident.

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The labeling itself doesn't determine equality, but many conditions in American society do. And until those issues have been addressed people will continue to preserve their own culture in whatever ways they deem appropriate and necessary.
Never said it did.

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And with all due respect, neither is pretending that there aren't still obstacles threaten the very equality of which you speak.
Where the fuck did I say that people should pretend there are not obstacles? I said set the tone, promote one way of thinking versus another.
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Old 03-21-2007, 09:07 AM   #2
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Where the fuck did I say that people should pretend there are not obstacles? I said set the tone, promote one way of thinking versus another.
A better question would be where did I accuse you of wearing such blinders?
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Old 03-20-2007, 04:02 PM   #3
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Old 03-20-2007, 04:16 PM   #4
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Old 03-21-2007, 11:11 AM   #5
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Old 03-22-2007, 10:32 AM   #6
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Old 03-20-2007, 04:08 PM   #7
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Old 03-20-2007, 04:13 PM   #8
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Old 03-20-2007, 04:13 PM   #9
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Old 03-20-2007, 04:19 PM   #10
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Old 03-20-2007, 04:20 PM   #11
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Old 03-20-2007, 04:53 PM   #12
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Old 03-20-2007, 04:53 PM   #13
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Other than flying The Jack on Saint Patrick's Day to irritate the Irish, I really don't put much stock in my being born and raised in England. After all, I had nothing to do with it. It's important to know one's history, but some take it a bit too far. There are those in the world who would kill to be "American."

That should be enough.
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Old 03-20-2007, 05:12 PM   #14
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Other than flying The Jack on Saint Patrick's Day to irritate the Irish, I really don't put much stock in my being born and raised in England. After all, I had nothing to do with it. It's important to know one's history, but some take it a bit too far. There are those in the world who would kill to be "American."

That should be enough.

As usual, someone says in two sentences what I fumble around with and attempt to say in paragraphs. I really need to work on that.

Great post, Donger.
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Old 03-20-2007, 05:13 PM   #15
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