Croyle deserves the Roethlisberger treatment

[Mr. Kotter]

Originally Posted by donkhater

New life as in how? A 10-6 team that gets bounced in the first round again instead of a 6-10 or 7-9 team that has information in which to build the team?

Insert veteran free agents (especially at QB), scrape through the season, win most of your home games, barely make or miss the playoffs, get embarrassed in the playoffs, rinse, repeat.

Ahh, the life of a Chiefs fan.

Nailed it. Nicely put.

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by donkhater

New life as in how? A 10-6 team that gets bounced in the first round again instead of a 6-10 or 7-9 team that has information in which to build the team?

Insert veteran free agents (especially at QB), scrape through the season, win most of your home games, barely make or miss the playoffs, get embarrassed in the playoffs, rinse, repeat.

Ahh, the life of a Chiefs fan.

[jettio]

Croyle can develop by getting a haircut and learning how to stand on the sidelines like a football player.

He always has his hands tucked under his shoulder pads as if he still has not gotten over getting the wind knocked out of him against Vanderbilt a couple of years ago.

I would like to see the kid become an elite NFL QB, but he needs to start looking and acting like a man so that the next time his coach tries to hand him a job he has not earned he won't blow it.

[beach tribe]

Whether Croyle starts RIGHT NOW or not, he will be the starter in 08

Where he will have a full season to prove his worth.

We WILL NOT be selecting a QB in the first round of 08. So whats the point of wanting to sacrifice this season, O mighty realists?

If the season goes in the tank, or Huard blows it, we will see him sooner.

The same people who gave up on the game before we even played it yesterday, are the ones who want to give up on the season a quarter of the way through it.

[HypnotizedMonkey]

Originally Posted by beach tribe

Whether Croyle starts RIGHT NOW or not, he will be the starter in 08

Where he will have a full season to prove his worth.

We WILL NOT be selecting a QB in the first round of 08. So whats the point of wanting to sacrifice this season, O mighty realists?

If the season goes in the tank, or Huard blows it, we will see him sooner.

The same people who gave up on the game before we even played it yesterday, are the ones who want to give up on the season a quarter of the way through it.

This is completely accurate.

[chiefsfan1963]

Croyle needs to be in there no matter how you slice it. This team is going no where this year. Our OL will not allow it and our O playcalling continues to be painful to watch. Despite the win yesterday we are not a playoff caliber team at least offensively. I read CP's comments in the paper and he patted himself on the back about yesterday's win. He such an ass.

We are going to blow an opportunity to get Top shelf quality players in the draft next year by winning 9 games this season. Picking in the low 20's will be a BIG disappointment.

I can see CP and Herm patting themselves on the back at the end of the year for a job well done after winning 8,9, even 10 games. Then getting their butts kicked in the postseason if they miraculously get in the playoffs.

I would settle for 3 years of true rebuilding if we completely get rid of the Front Office and Coaching staff.

My fear is that we will just do good enough to keep these Bozo's in
place!

Too Bad For Chiefs Fans!

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by chiefsfan1963

Croyle needs to be in there no matter how you slice it. This team is going no where this year. Our OL will not allow it and our O playcalling continues to be painful to watch. Despite the win yesterday we are not a playoff caliber team at least offensively. I read CP's comments in the paper and he patted himself on the back about yesterday's win. He such an ass.

We are going to blow an opportunity to get Top shelf quality players in the draft next year by winning 9 games this season. Picking in the low 20's will be a BIG disappointment.

I can see CP and Herm patting themselves on the back at the end of the year for a job well done after winning 8,9, even 10 games. Then getting their butts kicked in the postseason if they miraculously get in the playoffs.

I would settle for 3 years of true rebuilding if we completely get rid of the Front Office and Coaching staff.

My fear is that we will just do good enough to keep these Bozo's in
place!

Too Bad For Chiefs Fans!

Exactly my point.

I would hate to pick in the low twenties and end up with another D Bowe or LJ.

We should get a high pick. I heard I Ryan Sims brother is available


Since we have no chance at anything this year, why dont you wait till next year to watch the games.

[chiefsfan1963]

Originally Posted by beach tribe

Exactly my point.

I would hate to pick in the low twenties and end up with another D Bowe or LJ.

We should get a high pick. I heard I Ryan Sims brother is available


Since we have no chance at anything this year, why dont you wait till next year to watch the games.

We last went to the SB 38 years ago, if you reviewed all our drafts since then you will find we picked up most of our franchise players in the Top 5 Top 10. You can count on one hand how many times we picked this low in the past 38 years. I like to change this trend around and have more opportunities to load our team with quality players.

How do you think we are going to improve our OL in short order? Picking in the 20's isn't going to cut it.

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by chiefsfan1963

We last went to the SB 38 years ago, if you reviewed all our drafts since then you will find we picked up most of our franchise players in the Top 5 Top 10. You can count on one hand how many times we picked this low in the past 38 years. I like to change this trend around and have more opportunities to load our team with quality players.

How do you think we are going to improve our OL in short order? Picking in the 20's isn't going to cut it.

So you HOPE we lose this year.

Thank you.

I respect your opinion, but the draft is a crap shoot, not an automatic road to glory.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by beach tribe

So you HOPE we lose this year.

Thank you.

I respect your opinion, but the draft is a crap shoot, not an automatic road to glory.

So the reason why Indianapolis has over 40+ players on their team that they drafted is because they were luckier than everyone else??

Give me a fucking break.

Do you really think that Herm is just luckier than Vermeil vis a vis talent evaluation??


Look, one of the reasons why a lot of us want to see what Croyle can do and give him time to develop is because we have two all-world weapons on this offense who are running on borrowed time.

Tony won't be great forever, and neither will LJ. If we wait until '08 and Croyle busts, then we're in for a really long term of mediocrity, as players like that don't come along very often, and we'll be forced to go with yet another QB.

If Croyle tanks this year and we are able to get a guy like Andre Woodson or Brian Brohm, we might be able to be competitive while LJ still has some tread left on his tires. If Croyle shows flashes but we finish poorly, we can use that pick on Jake Long or Sam Baker, and have the left side of our line solidified for a decade.

[chiefsfan1963]

Originally Posted by beach tribe

So you HOPE we lose this year.

Thank you.

I respect your opinion, but the draft is a crap shoot, not an automatic road to glory.

No we don't intentionally lose we just find out what type of players we have sooner rather than later. This is not a SB team, we have a lot of missing pieces that we can't acquire in a year.

We need a new mindset in the Front Office with a GM that knows how to build for the long run.

The last 20 years has proven that CP is not the answer.

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by chiefsfan1963

Croyle needs to be in there no matter how you slice it. This team is going no where this year. Our OL will not allow it and our O playcalling continues to be painful to watch. Despite the win yesterday we are not a playoff caliber team at least offensively. I read CP's comments in the paper and he patted himself on the back about yesterday's win. He such an ass.

We are going to blow an opportunity to get Top shelf quality players in the draft next year by winning 9 games this season. Picking in the low 20's will be a BIG disappointment.

I can see CP and Herm patting themselves on the back at the end of the year for a job well done after winning 8,9, even 10 games. Then getting their butts kicked in the postseason if they miraculously get in the playoffs.

I would settle for 3 years of true rebuilding if we completely get rid of the Front Office and Coaching staff.

My fear is that we will just do good enough to keep these Bozo's in
place!

Too Bad For Chiefs Fans!

I cant believe you morons actually think a couple of bad seasons will get CP fired.

He could EASILY throw Herm under the bus and re-up if he wanted to.

This is what weve got. Getover it. Stop being such crybabies

[Sure-Oz]

Huard atleast has been adjusting, hopefully he can gain confidence with the past 2 games...i say only throw in croyle due to injury or poor play on huards side. He seems to not have a problem throwing downfield anymore.

[Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan]

Why do the Huard supporters believe that because some of us want to see what Croyle's got means we want the Chiefs to lose.

IMNSHO, I think Croyle gives us a better chance to win consistantly than Damon "Noodle-Arm" Hutard does.

I have no confidence in Hutard's ability to take the game on his back and win, should we need it. He's constantly being bailed out by Gonzo and Bowe on bad throws into coverage, he still skips the ball to the receiver on those swing passes and he's more likely to panic and curl up against a tough pass rush than he is to step up and "maybe" get hit as he releases the ball.

He's a journeyman back-up and that's all he's going to be. Croyle may or may not be the QBotF for this team, but we'll never know as long as he's on the sidelines.

He may not do better than Hutard, but I doubt he can do any worse. If he's as good as Hutard, then we'll still get our 8-9-10 wins AND know what kind of young quarterback that we have. If he's worse, then we know we need to look at QB in the worst way in the draft.

But, either way, we'd know what we have in Croyle.

We know what we have in Hutard. A journeyman back-up.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan

IMNSHO, I think Croyle gives us a better chance to win consistantly than Damon "Noodle-Arm" Hutard does.

Based on what? His 2006 preseason play? His 2006 regular season play? His 2007 preseason play? What? WHAT?

Unless you have some sort of crystal ball, you don't know ANYTHING about Croyle. YOU'RE GUESSING. And HOPING. Period.

Originally Posted by beach tribe

I think he even gives us the best chance to win now, and that he is clearly the better QB.

See above.