Gunther's finger pointing has already begun...

[DaWolf]

Typical. Would expect nothing less from a guy who loves to blame everyone but himself on his failures...

“I’ve gone through three years of playing zone defense because I was loyal to Herm Edwards,” Cunningham said today in a conference call. “That’s what he wanted. People here in town knew that I was different than that. My idea is to put a lot of pressure on the quarterback — always has been, always will be.”

This after you proclaim that you love Herm Edwards and the Cover 2 has always been a part of your scheme and that the "handcuffs" had been taken off with Herm, all while you were throwing Vermeil under the bus.

I guess Gunther really doesn't have a spine.

“The emotions get involved, ‘Oh, we’ll play with all these young players,’ ” Cunningham said. “But what you don’t understand is, they have to be led by guys like Jared Allen.”

“If you have a lot of young players that you’re going to draft, you have to make sure you work the whole process,” Cunningham said. “I believe the mistake we made here is that they tried to add some UFA players like Demorrio Williams. Well, he doesn’t have enough experience and enough ability to lead a bunch of rookies. …

“I can at least share what happened here and the pitfalls we ran into and see what the process brings.”

Yeah, so the answer I suppose would be signing all those UFA's you had on your list that you gave to Carl and proclaimed that Carl delivered. That Kendrell Bell, helluva leader Gun.

http://www.freep.com/article/2009012...mon+with+Lions

[kc rush]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

It's that exact scenario that Pioli is trying to avoid.

He wants the GM, coach and coordinators to be on the same page. Carl, Herm, Gun, Solari and Gailey weren't close to being on the same page. They each wanted and had a different approach.

No way does Pioli keep Herm around.

Great post. I agree with this and can't wait for Herm to be shown the door. It will be interesting to hear who Herm throws under the bus once he is gone.

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by Rooster

I would be throwing these clowns under the bus too. He was in a no win situation.

If he was so opposed to the defensive scheme he wouldn't have made all those comments about getting better after Vermeil left.

Track Jared Allen's ascension with the overall performance of the team. Throw in his departure. See a correlation?

He wasn't in a no-win situation. He didn't need to stay with the Chiefs when Herm informed him of the kind of defense he wanted to run.

[smittysbar]

I miss him already.

[Archie Bunker]

Originally Posted by John_Wayne

I agree with Gunther. I always suspected that the cover 2 was not his defense and he was trying to make lemonade out of crappy lemons. Gunther has some blame, but less than 50%. I'd put more than 50% on Herm. I think Gun, if he chose his own players and scheme, would have been more sucessful with the Chiefs.

He had the chance to pick his players and we ended up with shit. If he didn't want to run the Cover 2 he could have grown a spine and left with DV.

**** Gunther.

[EyePod]

Originally Posted by smittysbar

I miss him already.

I know. Who are we going to make fun of. We only have Herm left! Damnit Carl and Damnit Gun! Why'd you have to make us lose the butts of all of our jokes?!?!?!

[booger]

All it proves is what we have wondered for so long. He was given to big of a voice from Carl. You take Carl, who thinks he is a "football man" but isn't and only hire coaches he can play puppet with. Gun Has always had trouble just doing his job and not going overboard. It's what got him fired as HC. He didn't trust anyone to deligate responsibilities and he was never wrong. Tim Grunhard said at that time it was always me me me out of Gun's mouth.

That's why when he came back from the titans he said he was bored with just being a LB coach there.

I hope Schwartz has a shock collar and extra batteries for the remote because he sure will need them. He better get Marty on speed dial if he wants to learn how to control that fools ego.

All that says or proves is that Carl and Herm have no business trying to manage a coaching staff, which is part of the job of the GM and HC.

Looks like Pioli has his mind made up on the D anyway. Gun and Gibbs are gone. Only krumrie, Michael Ketchum( a DA who was a Grad Ass. under Ferentz) and Daron Roberts(low level DA/quality control) remain. With Gun leaving the LB coach leaves as well.

It will be interesting what happens with Gailey and the O next. He brought in D'Allesandres and Modkins from GTech for their first NFL coaching jobs. Bicknell and Curl had college and only NFL europe exp. from the pro level. Price and Embree only have their pro experience under Herm as well. So you could say Gailey is the only guy who other teams actually "know" about without talking with Herm.

So special teams and D are done(krumrie probably goes anytime now) and let's see what happens on O. If that's the way it is I bet they are letting Herm sit around to stew to see if he resigns, which is doubtful

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by Archie Bunker

He had the chance to pick his players and we ended up with shit. If he didn't want to run the Cover 2 he could have grown a spine and left with DV.

**** Gunther.

Gunther never had any conviction. He went back to the team with the GM that fired him over the internet.

I hope he keeps talking and gives tidbits up of what went wrong with the Chiefs. It's nice to know that the fans were correct about a lot of their observations and guesses the past three years.

[Rooster]

Originally Posted by EyePod

Doesn't mean that he isn't terrible though.

This is true.

[Bowser]

The new regime can't start fast enough.

[booger]

That old crazy bastard Al Davis knew what he was doing demoting that egomaniac to DLcoach before he first came here.

[Rooster]

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

He wasn't in a no-win situation. He didn't need to stay with the Chiefs when Herm informed him of the kind of defense he wanted to run.

Do you have a job?

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by EyePod

It's just that about 30 minutes ago someone joked around about how long it will take for Gun to throw Herm under the bus....

I have been one of the most critical, when it comes to Gunther.

But I have to agree with him on this. Herm insisted on his defense, the cover 2, which has been said to be obsolete.

Also, I can't blame him for being a little ticked at losing the only impact player this defense has had, in quite a while.

That being said, I am so glad he is gone!

[milkman]

Originally Posted by HemiEd

I have been one of the most critical, when it comes to Gunther.

But I have to agree with him on this. Herm insisted on his defense, the cover 2, which has been said to be obsolete.

Also, I can't blame him for being a little ticked at losing the only impact player this defense has had, in quite a while.

That being said, I am so glad he is gone!

I understand the sentiment that he was handcuffed by being forced to run a cover two.

But I also saw how well Ron Rivera adapted to the cover two for the Bears, after working for Jim Johnson in Philly, and how he got improved results from the Charger defense after replacing Ted Cottrell mid season in San Diego.

An actual coach can coach, regardless of scheme.

A bad coach makes excuses and points fingers.

[CoMoChief]

What he's saying is true. Our defense the last year JA was here was the best defense we've had since like 2001.

[Archie Bunker]

Originally Posted by milkman

I understand the sentiment that he was handcuffed by being forced to run a cover two.

But I also saw how well Ron Rivera adapted to the cover two for the Bears, after working for Jim Johnson in Philly, and how he got improved results from the Charger defense after replacing Ted Cottrell mid season in San Diego.

An actual coach can coach, regardless of scheme.

A bad coach makes excuses and points fingers.

That's reptastic.