Petro ripping the Chiefs...

[petegz28]

Bitching about the TG trade and hwo he was treated
Bitching about Pollard and how he was treated
Bitching about Waters and how he was treated
Bitching about DJ and how he is treated
Bitching about Bowe being benched



Petro is on overload...."this team attacks every talented player they have"....

[LaChapelle]

Why can't I quit you mediocrity!

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Look at Wigman in Denver. But we were all ready for him to go. It has a lot to do with the surrounding talent. These guys he is whining about were supposed to be the surrounding talent to make average players better. Instead they were average at best themselves, save TG.

Casey had more to do with the scheme than talent.

He's a perfect fit for Denver's zone blocking scheme, and not a good fit at all for a downhill, power running game that we were trying to establish at the time.

[RedThat]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Wow, I forgot these guys were getting paid millions of $'s to play.

It's not just the money here, were talking about dealing with people, and thats what life is. Its no different then anything else you do. Whatever you do, you're going to deal with people its inevitable. If the person next to you treats you well that gives one more motivation to work even harder to succeed as a team.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by tyler360

He needs to quit bitching about DJ. Yes he has more talent than all the rest of our linebackers combined, but he had four years to prove it and he disappeared and was amazingly inconsistent so i really don't give a rats ass what they do to DJ.

I do not understand the DJ thing, at all. He is three times the backer D. Williams is, but can't crack the starting lineup? I am not one of these "DJ is a world beater!" guys, but goddamn, you'd think it would be in your best interests to get a guy on the field that has shown an ability to make a play.

And watch - DJ is going to end up in Denver next year after his contract with us is up, and he will terrorize us for the next 4-6 years.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by RedThat

It's not just the money here, were talking about dealing with people, and thats what life is. Its no different then anything else you do. Whatever you do, you're going to deal with people its inevitable. If the person next to you treats you well that gives one more motivation to work even harder to succeed as a team.

Well you would have an argument except I would lay my life's savings that 95% of the people in this country would take an ass chewing twice a day for a couple million $'s a year.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Casey had more to do with the scheme than talent.

He's a perfect fit for Denver's zone blocking scheme, and not a good fit at all for a downhill, power running game that we were trying to establish at the time.

That's a whole other issue, as to why Herm wanted to change the scheme. It's not like we were top 5 in offense for three straight years or anything.

[Brock]

Originally Posted by RedThat

it's not nonsense, its a fact of life.

what Im trying to say is, if a person has good people skills, and is good with people thats a step in the right direction towards success. If people like you, then they'll have more of a desire to contribute and want to work for you. And I've seen coaches with great people skills who players love and it brings out the best in players.

The players loved Herm Edwards. Loved him. That shoots a gigantic hole in your theory.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Brock

The players loved Herm Edwards. Loved him. That shoots a gigantic hole in your theory.

Yep. And that is because he coddled people playing like crap.

[Zman]

Originally Posted by petegz28

TG wanted out last year, before Pioli and Haley ever were though of
Pollard...no big loss
Waters....overrated cry baby
DJ? Maybe an argument there
Bowe...needed to happen and has paid off
LJ? How can you defend him?

You are so correct. Let them have a chance, everybody is so used to us spoiling these players its so nice to have people in charge who don't care if you like them or not, they just want to win!

[Zman]

Originally Posted by Brock

The players loved Herm Edwards. Loved him. That shoots a gigantic hole in your theory.

Amen

[RedThat]

Originally Posted by Brock

The players loved Herm Edwards. Loved him. That shoots a gigantic hole in your theory.

Herm was great at dealing with people. But was awful when it came to managing and getting his teams prepared. And he also did a porous job when it came to game planning, strategizing and make adjustments.

i will say though I see more of an effort in the players when Herm was here compared to Haley.

[Molitoth]

Originally Posted by Brock

The players loved Herm Edwards. Loved him. That shoots a gigantic hole in your theory.

Of course they loved Herm, his practices were the weakest and easiest in the NFL. Herm players got paid to slack in practice, and not give a shit... while keeping thier jobs. Who would NOT love a job with a manager like that?

[memyselfI]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Yep. And that is because he coddled people playing like crap.

Maybe it's because he's played and treats his players as he was treated or wish he was treated as a coach.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Well you would have an argument except I would lay my life's savings that 95% of the people in this country would take an ass chewing twice a day for a couple million $'s a year.

Classic Millionaire hatred. They make tons of money so they deserve to be treated like children. If they want to make that much money, they should do whatever coach says.

Yeah right. Money does not justify or excuse disrespect. I don't understand why some people don't get that. You can't treat a professional sports team like a bunch of junior high kids.

[RedThat]

if you want to see a coach who had players love him and had great relationships with his players and also had good teams look no further then Vermeil.