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Bewbies · 11-15-2010, 10:27 PM

I'm hoping for a QB. If we're screwed there one of the elite WR's with our #1. To fix the D we need a NT (Powe?) and an OLB. One guy I like is from UGA, Justin Houston. What's he, probably a 3-5 rounder?

jd1020 · 11-15-2010, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies

I'm hoping for a QB. If we're screwed there one of the elite WR's with our #1. To fix the D we need a NT (Powe?) and an OLB. One guy I like is from UGA, Justin Houston. What's he, probably a 3-5 rounder?

What's with all this wanting to draft a QB in the first round? The Chiefs will be drafting in the 15-20 range most likely. What the hell QB are you going to take that earlier? Luck and Locker wont be on the board. Are you seriously going to use that pick on Ponder?

Bewbies · 11-15-2010, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

What's with all this wanting to draft a QB in the first round? The Chiefs will be drafting in the 15-20 range most likely. What the hell QB are you going to take that earlier? Luck and Locker wont be on the board. Are you seriously going to use that pick on Ponder?

You never know. Aaron Rodgers was picked at 23. If we're in the 15-20 range and a QB is sitting there at 10 I'm moving up. Without a QB you have to turn your defense into the 2000 Ravens in order to win a Super Bowl.

jd1020 · 11-15-2010, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies

You never know. Aaron Rodgers was picked at 23. If we're in the 15-20 range and a QB is sitting there at 10 I'm moving up. Without a QB you have to turn your defense into the 2000 Ravens in order to win a Super Bowl.

There's no point in picking a QB that early. Cassel will be here. As much as I dont want him to be here he's going to be here. I dont see the Chiefs picking a QB til atleast round 3.

Bewbies · 11-15-2010, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

There's no point in picking a QB that early. Cassel will be here. As much as I dont want him to be here he's going to be here. I dont see the Chiefs picking a QB til atleast round 3.

There is very much a point to picking a QB that early. 50+% of Super Bowl winning QB's are drafted in the first round. Guys that can carry the team on their back. Guys that you build the team upon, not build your scheme around.

Without a QB you've got nothing.

I doubt KC drafts one in the first round either, but I am sick and tired of watching a guy that Pete Carroll was smart enough to not let see the field in college get protected, schemed and stated up to pretend as if he's a guy that can carry a team.

Keep him and you've got to build the 2000 Ravens defense and you might get one shot at a title. Draft a QB and you might have a guy that takes you to the playoffs 10 years in a row, and wins you multiple Super Bowls regardless of who he's throwing to, handing off to, or is blocking for him.

I'm tired of losing, I'm don't remember the last time KC won a playoff game. I may have watched it, but I was 14 and it was 1993. We've had the best defense in the league, and we've had the best offense in the league, yet we still haven't won a playoff game. We've had the best pass rusher, the best D line, the best O line, the best TE, the best rushing attack, pretty much the best anything you can name but QB. All have led to no playoff wins.

YET, the team with the best QB's seem to make the playoffs every year paired with crap defenses, crap o lines, crap WR corps, crap RB's.

I know I'm wasting my breath, too many folks in KC have bought that you can build around a QB and win and ignore the evidence that you have to build upon the QB.

Mecca · 11-15-2010, 10:35 PM

And this is the best WR draft in awhile, at least for top end talent, that's why I think more are gonna go high.

**AustinChief** · 11-15-2010, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

And this is the best WR draft in awhile, at least for top end talent, that's why I think more are gonna go high.

I agree but I think that we will see more than 3 top end guys by the time the draft rolls around.. I can see it easily being 5 or 6 guys that go in the first or early second and being studs.

**BossChief** · 11-15-2010, 10:39 PM

I dont think I would take Floyd or Julio Jones if they were on the board, no matter where we pick in the first.

Floyd isnt available enough to warrant a very high pick and Julio Jones drops as many passes as Bowe.

No way Green is there when we pick, but I could see Baldwin being there and if he is, he would be a good pick.

Ace Gunner · 08-15-2013, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

I dont think I would take Floyd or Julio Jones if they were on the board, no matter where we pick in the first.

Floyd isnt available enough to warrant a very high pick and Julio Jones drops as many passes as Bowe.

No way Green is there when we pick, but I could see Baldwin being there and if he is, he would be a good pick.

ho lee szet

ToxSocks · 08-15-2013, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls

ho lee szet

Meh. Everyone gets shit wrong. Our success rate isn't much different than NFL GM's.

Projecting is a difficult thing, especially for fans with very limited access to information. Hell, NFL clubs have tons of info on prospects and STILL get it wrong.

I don't agree with Boss's statement though. I woulda taken Julio Jones in a heartbeat back then.

saphojunkie · 08-15-2013, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

I dont think I would take Floyd or Julio Jones if they were on the board, no matter where we pick in the first.

Floyd isnt available enough to warrant a very high pick and Julio Jones drops as many passes as Bowe.

No way Green is there when we pick, but I could see Baldwin being there and if he is, he would be a good pick.

Scott? Is that you?

Mecca · 11-15-2010, 10:41 PM

Think we're picking ahead of the Rams? If not that's probably where Baldwins worse case scenario is.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 11-15-2010, 10:53 PM

I actually think we may have a worse record next year than this year just because of the schedule difference.

My hope is that we pick up a burner WR, a NT, and a pass rusher from this draft. Hopefully we'll finally be willing to address the QB in 2012 in what should be a tremendous draft class for that position.

I'm not of the belief that we need a Johnny Baldwin or AJ Green, although I would love to pick one if they were there.

The secondary just needs time.

We need another starting caliber pass rusher alongside Hali, because Studebaker is not the answer and who knows about Sheffield's future at all.

Needs (not in order)

1: QB
2: Secondary Pass Rusher
3: Deep Threat
4: NT
5: C
6: Rotational linebackers

**AustinChief** · 11-15-2010, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Needs (not in order)

1: QB
2: Secondary Pass Rusher
3: Deep Threat
4: NT
5: C
6: Rotational linebackers

I think we seriously need to look at another OG as well... I wouldn't cry over a RT either.

**BossChief** · 11-16-2010, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief

I think we seriously need to look at another OG as well... I wouldn't cry over a RT either.

With Asamoah and Lilja on the squad, I dont see OG as a need.

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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-512950	Think we're picking ahead of the Rams? If not that's probably where Baldwins worse case scenario is.
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'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7259572	I actually think we may have a worse record next year than this year just because of the schedule difference. My hope is that we pick up a burner WR, a NT, and a pass rusher from this draft. Hopefully we'll finally be willing to address the QB in 2012 in what should be a tremendous draft class for that position. I'm not of the belief that we need a Johnny Baldwin or AJ Green, although I would love to pick one if they were there. The secondary just needs time. We need another starting caliber pass rusher alongside Hali, because Studebaker is not the answer and who knows about Sheffield's future at all. Needs (not in order) 1: QB 2: Secondary Pass Rusher 3: Deep Threat 4: NT 5: C 6: Rotational linebackers __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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11-15-2010, 10:27 PM	#1
Bewbies Ith Fuhtbawl Time Join Date: Apr 2010 Casino cash: $9999900	I'm hoping for a QB. If we're screwed there one of the elite WR's with our #1. To fix the D we need a NT (Powe?) and an OLB. One guy I like is from UGA, Justin Houston. What's he, probably a 3-5 rounder?
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