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Old 08-26-2008, 07:35 PM  
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Pot dealer's tragic choice ended in death

http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=5454035

15 min ABC video about Rachel Hoffman 23, a college student busted with dealing pot. She was given a choice to be an informant or 4 years in prison.
The "deal" she was on went terribly wrong ending in her death.

The Tallahassee police clearly were looking for the bust and were not taking her safety in mind. She was not a professional but was asked to purchase large quantities of drugs and a hand gun. She had no weapons charges but was asked to purchase one. The police blame her because she left the plan that was originally conceived.

The Tallahassee police FAILED horribly in so many ways.

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Old 08-26-2008, 08:29 PM   #61
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How is that enough to put her away for 4 years? I've known guys that have been busted with much more than that and haven't served any time.
Laws vary by state. Some have "zero tolerance" policies which means they nail your ass to the wall for anything.
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Old 08-26-2008, 08:30 PM   #62
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I mentioned it, and it was.

Anyone who defends the police in this situation, probably didn't watch the video that was linked.

It's tragic, and unforgivable. The girl had no business being put in that position to begin with.
yeah you did mention the gun, missed it. But you're right, a professional should have been doing this deal and she was not one.
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Old 08-26-2008, 08:30 PM   #63
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Laws vary by state. Some have "zero tolerance" policies which means they nail your ass to the wall for anything.
remind me to avoid those states
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Old 08-26-2008, 08:31 PM   #64
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still think that there are ways around the 0tolerance laws
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Old 08-26-2008, 08:32 PM   #65
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That's another problem. Police shouldn't be able to flat-out lie to suspects in order to get them to confess, whether it's saying their friends already narked on them or telling them they'll go to prison for X amount of time when they know they won't.
"Okay, here's the deal. You help us bring down the drug dealer, and we'll make sure that you don't get 50 hours of community service. Think about it."




Nah. It would never work.
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Old 08-26-2008, 08:32 PM   #66
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How is that enough to put her away for 4 years? I've known guys that have been busted with much more than that and haven't served any time.
Intent to sale.

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Old 08-26-2008, 08:32 PM   #67
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still think that there are ways around the 0tolerance laws
Probably. I imagine they look like this:

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Old 08-26-2008, 08:32 PM   #68
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Old 08-26-2008, 08:33 PM   #69
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Intent to sale.

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Old 08-26-2008, 08:34 PM   #70
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Definately a keystone cops moment. It's scary to think idiots like that are in charge of public safety.

That being said, I'm not overly sympathetic to the girl. She got caught dealing drugs once, and was given an opportunity to start over with a clean slate. All she had to do was stay clean for 1 year, but apparently that was asking too much. Then after getting caught a second time, she chose to hide it from her father and her lawyer.

Stupid is as stupid does.
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Old 08-26-2008, 08:34 PM   #72
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just like those fake ass 3 strikes laws. i've got a friend who has 5 felony drug, and 3 felony weapons charges and he did like 5 years and only that because he skipped out on the drug program they put him in
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Old 08-26-2008, 08:36 PM   #73
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Intent to sale.

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Right, and as I said I've known guys that have been busted with much more, charged w/ intent, and haven't served hard time at all. Of course they did pay out the ass for a top lawyer and got hit hard on probation.
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Old 08-26-2008, 08:38 PM   #74
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Old 08-26-2008, 08:38 PM   #75
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Right, and as I said I've known guys that have been busted with much more, charged w/ intent, and haven't served hard time at all. Of course they did pay out the ass for a top lawyer and got hit hard on probation.
and dont forget that community service
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