I know everyone on CP hates Cassel.....

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by tk13

Okay I'm not going to defend the guy but that's lunacy. Even Peyton Manning doesn't have two Super Bowl wins.

cdcox's jury is still out on that guy.

[DaFace]

Stop killing drives by missing wide-open receivers. That would be a start.

Oh, and if he's rolling out due to pressure and about to run out of bounds, throw the ball away instead of taking the sack.

[Shogun]

If he turned into Peyton Manning

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Shogun

If he turned into Peyton Manning

I'd rather he turned into Kurt Warner.

[teedubya]

I'd like him if he was Mike Vick.

[wazu]

Stop missing wide open receivers that are right in front of him less than 10 yards down the field. Start with that. If we can go 3 or 4 games without seeing that happen I'll re-open my mind to the possibility that he might not be a colossal disaster of an acquisition.

[Brock]

He's playing as well as he possibly can. So the answer is: nothing.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Brock

He's playing as well as he possibly can. So the answer is: nothing.

He lacks confidence and courage in the pocket.

That is the root of all his problems.

All his other issues would disappear if he were to simply grow a set.

[Brock]

Originally Posted by milkman

He lacks confidence and courage in the pocket.

That is the root of all his problems.

All his other issues would disappear if he were to simply grow a set.

Confidence and courage aren't what keeps him from hitting wide open receivers down the field. He is what he is. He could have balls of steel and he'd still be under/overthrowing guys by 10 yards.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Brock

Confidence and courage aren't what keeps him from hitting wide open receivers down the field. He is what he is. He could have balls of steel and he'd still be under/overthrowing guys by 10 yards.

If he played with confidence and courage, he doesn't have happy feet, he steps into his throws and follows through, and his accuracy issues are no longer issues.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by milkman

He lacks confidence and courage in the pocket.

That is the root of all his problems.

All his other issues would disappear if he were to simply grow a set.

This a criticism I can agree with. I think that's something that a guy can grow out of although it's certainly possible that he never will.

[2112]

Maybe it's just me. but when Cassell was good with the Patriots the year Brady was out they didnt use him strictly as a pure drop back passer. there was always a shit load of screens and misdirections and draws out of the shot gun. he's not being used the same way with the Chiefs. he sucked at throwing the ball down the field with the Patriots too. and he had Randy Moss on that team.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by D2112

Maybe it's just me. but when Cassell was good with the Patriots the year Brady was out they didnt use him strictly as a pure drop back passer. there was always a shit load of screens and misdirections and draws out of the shot gun. he's not being used the same way with the Chiefs. he sucked at throwing the ball down the field with the Patriots too. and he had Randy Moss on that team.

I've talked about this a lot in my assesment of Cassel's play after watching all of the Patriot games I could when it became apparent we were going to be going after him.

I think Gailey recognized this, but Haley didn't want to change the philosophy he brought just to hide his QB's weaknesses.

I belieev he thinks the team will be better off in the long term of he is able to develop Cassel into a traditional drop back QB.

Failing that, he'll get another QB.

At the end of the day, he's probably right.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by patteeu

This a criticism I can agree with. I think that's something that a guy can grow out of although it's certainly possible that he never will.

The problem is that this is what I've been saying about Cassel since he was with the Patriots.

He hasn't grown in three years.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by Three7s

So, after listening to Petro's weekly PMS rant about people unfairly bashing Cassel, I started wondering. What would it take for people to actually.....LIKE Cassel? I don't know if there's a thread on this or not because I'm way too lazy to go through all of the Cassel bashing threads.

FWIW, I don't think Cassel is all that great either, but he can, at least, complete a pass once in awhile, unlike guys like Campbell.

What I think would sway my feelings toward him is to do what he did against the Broncos, only when it REALLY matters. I know it would go against our offensive philosophy, but teams are stacking the box on us so much that it looks like it has to be done.......so how about you guys?

He's still at it, huh? Unlistenable.