Royals KK wrong about success of ASG - Page 5

KingPriest2 · 07-11-2012, 02:39 PM

Remember when we were awarded the ASG and KK said that KC will be a embarrassment? Then last summer a article in SI had a player talking about coming here and some players weren't sure. KK took off with that as ammo saying we shouldn't host the game?

Now he s saying that he expected it

**Saul Good** · 07-11-2012, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

I think losing for 25 years has a much bigger effect on fans than having a stadium 10 minutes outside downtown does.

Seriously, driving from the K to downtown takes 10 minutes Max. It's not as big a deal as most people make it.
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It's fifteen miles or twenty plus minutes with traffic, plus you then have to deal with figuring out where to eat, paying for parking, and all that shit. Suddenly, it's not worth the hassle if you really only want to catch 90 minutes of the game or so.

In Kansas City, people pop into a bar for a few drinks after work. In cities with downtown stadiums, they hit the Rockies game for a couple of drinks after work.

CoMoChief · 07-11-2012, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

It's fifteen miles or twenty plus minutes with traffic, plus you then have to deal with figuring out where to eat, paying for parking, and all that shit. Suddenly, it's not worth the hassle if you really only want to catch 90 minutes of the game or so.

In Kansas City, people pop into a bar for a few drinks after work. In cities with downtown stadiums, they hit the Rockies game for a couple of drinks after work.

What about Arrowhead?

**Saul Good** · 07-11-2012, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

What about Arrowhead?

You don't pop into Arrowhead after work. Home football games happen 8 times a year, and they happen on Sundays. You can expect people to make a day out of going to Arrowhead because that makes up 2% of the year. Arrowhead is perfect right where it is.

**Saul Good** · 07-11-2012, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

I vote to build up the area around the complex. Those teams aren't getting new stadiums anywhere else in this area.

Build up the area? Kansas City just did that and is subsidizing it to the tune of tens of millions of dollars. That area is downtown...where people actually work.

And then, the taxpayers ponied up hundreds of millions of dollars so that a few billionaires could make more money off of the stadiums...and instead of building a new stadium near that beautiful downtown entertainment district, the stadium was renovated by adding a couple of bars and a playground. Meanwhile, the billionaire owner of the Royals has shown absolutely zero willingness to make the financial commitment necessary for building a winner.

Now we're supposed to say, "Hey Mr. Glass. Dumping hundreds of millions of dollars into your stadium in the middle of nowhere wasn't enough. Now, we're going to dump another hundred million into building an entertainment district around your stadium. Of course, nobody works near there, so nobody is going to go there, but we're Kansas City. This is what we do. You've seen where we put the ****ing airport, right?"

JoeyChuckles · 07-11-2012, 07:56 PM

I vote for downtown stadium, and I would like it to be open in 2025.

Seriously.

**morphius** · 07-11-2012, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

Only in Kansas City do people prefer a stadium in the middle of nowhere because it's easy to park.

and tailgate...

**Saul Good** · 07-11-2012, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by morphius

and tailgate...

I'm sure all 13 people who tailgate at Thursday evening Royals games are glad to have a parking lot the size of Andorra in which to throw washers.

**petegz28** · 07-11-2012, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

Can't you just develop the areas around the stadiums and achieve the same effect?

No. You would need major arteries to get there you know like highways and such. That I-70 thing that runs across the entire country for some reason doesn't qualify.

DJJasonp · 07-11-2012, 08:30 PM

For downtown stadium to be successful, you need:

1) Lots to do surrounding stadium (bars, restaurants, etc.) - check
2) Good mass-transit (bus, trolley, train) - nope
3) good product - getting there, but not yet

Take it from someone who's experienced both, downtown stadiums (when all 3 above are met) are kick-ass.

And with good mass-transit, parking problems are non-existent.

The padres played in the shithole that is Qualcomm.......moved downtown......it's a party.....plenty of things to do....plenty of places to eat/drink.

150 times better than Qualcomm (which would be the equivalent of KC's sports complex.....10-15 min from downtown........nothing close by. (though the trolley does stop at Qualcomm also)

**petegz28** · 07-11-2012, 08:32 PM

I've been to the Arizona Cardinals and D-Backs facilities. We had to take a shuttle from the parking lot to the stadium for the Cardinals. We had to park a mile away for the D-Backs. It was stupid as ****. Granted at the Cards if you are a season ticket holder you get to park next to the stadium.

**gblowfish** · 07-11-2012, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

It's fifteen miles or twenty plus minutes with traffic, plus you then have to deal with figuring out where to eat, paying for parking, and all that shit. Suddenly, it's not worth the hassle if you really only want to catch 90 minutes of the game or so.

In Kansas City, people pop into a bar for a few drinks after work. In cities with downtown stadiums, they hit the Rockies game for a couple of drinks after work.

Usually when I hear this argument, its from some Johnson County resident who didn't pay a goddamn dime to renovate the stadium anyway.

Jackson County built it.
Jackson County renovated it.
It sits in the middle of Jackson County.
Where the people who PAID for the damn thing live.

I could care less if your drive from Olathe is inconvenient.

The only thing a JoCo will pay for is a gated community. And guess what? Most of you aren't welcome there, unless you're coming out to clean the house, cut the grass or clean the pool.

Oh, and one other thing.

The Sprint Center was built next to the P&L with the promise that we would get the NBA or NHL. Guess what? We got neither. Even if we did build a downtown baseball stadium, as long as the Glass Family own the team, we won't have a baseball team either. So instead of drawing 15,000 a night in August and September at the HST Sports complex, you'll be drawing 10,000 a night downtown. Plus Jackson County taxpayers are going to be hard pressed to ever build anything again for David Glass based on his cheap ass track record. So good luck passing a bond issue, because downtown is in KCMO, Jackson County.

Maybe Wyandotte County would build one out by Sporting's Park, but I really doubt that. They already have the TBones, and they occasionally win!

**Saul Good** · 07-11-2012, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish

Usually when I hear this argument, its from some Johnson County resident who didn't pay a goddamn dime to renovate the stadium anyway.

Jackson County built it.
Jackson County renovated it.
It sits in the middle of Jackson County.
Where the people who PAID for the damn thing live.

I could care less if your drive from Olathe is inconvenient.

The only thing a JoCo will pay for is a gated community. And guess what? Most of you aren't welcome there, unless you're coming out to clean the house, cut the grass or clean the pool.

Enjoy paying out the ass for a stadium in Raytown so that a billionaire in Arkansas can get even wealthier, then.

-King- · 07-11-2012, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

Enjoy paying out the ass for a stadium in Raytown so that a billionaire in Arkansas can get even wealthier, then.

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-King- · 07-11-2012, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DJJasonp

For downtown stadium to be successful, you need:

1) Lots to do surrounding stadium (bars, restaurants, etc.) - check
2) Good mass-transit (bus, trolley, train) - nope
3) good product - getting there, but not yet

Take it from someone who's experienced both, downtown stadiums (when all 3 above are met) are kick-ass.

And with good mass-transit, parking problems are non-existent.

The padres played in the shithole that is Qualcomm.......moved downtown......it's a party.....plenty of things to do....plenty of places to eat/drink.

150 times better than Qualcomm (which would be the equivalent of KC's sports complex.....10-15 min from downtown........nothing close by. (though the trolley does stop at Qualcomm also)

....and they're 23rd in attendance.

**morphius** · 07-11-2012, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

....and they're 23rd in attendance.

07-11-2012, 02:39 PM
KingPriest2 Super Grover Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: KCMO Casino cash: $8635135	KK wrong about success of ASG Remember when we were awarded the ASG and KK said that KC will be a embarrassment? Then last summer a article in SI had a player talking about coming here and some players weren't sure. KK took off with that as ammo saying we shouldn't host the game? Now he s saying that he expected it
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07-11-2012, 07:56 PM	#65
JoeyChuckles Bring It Home Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: North Haverbrook Casino cash: $10007012	I vote for downtown stadium, and I would like it to be open in 2025. Seriously.
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07-11-2012, 08:30 PM	#69
DJJasonp My work speaks for itself!!! Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: So Cal Casino cash: $-1664800	For downtown stadium to be successful, you need: 1) Lots to do surrounding stadium (bars, restaurants, etc.) - check 2) Good mass-transit (bus, trolley, train) - nope 3) good product - getting there, but not yet Take it from someone who's experienced both, downtown stadiums (when all 3 above are met) are kick-ass. And with good mass-transit, parking problems are non-existent. The padres played in the shithole that is Qualcomm.......moved downtown......it's a party.....plenty of things to do....plenty of places to eat/drink. 150 times better than Qualcomm (which would be the equivalent of KC's sports complex.....10-15 min from downtown........nothing close by. (though the trolley does stop at Qualcomm also) __________________ Its easier to fool a man, than to convince a man he's been fooled.
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07-11-2012, 08:32 PM	#70
petegz28 Supporter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Olathe, Ks Casino cash: $-875873	I've been to the Arizona Cardinals and D-Backs facilities. We had to take a shuttle from the parking lot to the stadium for the Cardinals. We had to park a mile away for the D-Backs. It was stupid as ****. Granted at the Cards if you are a season ticket holder you get to park next to the stadium.
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