Talking Draft Prospects - Page 5

Direckshun · 08:24 PM

We've got perhaps the biggest, most consequential draft coming up for this franchise since 2008. The Chiefs have all seven of their picks, and will certainly be picking up an additional four in compensatory picks, one of which is assuredly a 3rd rounder.

As a result, it's important to familiarize ourselves with as much of this draft class as possible. I started a thread last offseason that discussed late rounders that was generally well liked and spurred tons of great conversation on all sorts of draft picks we normally wouldn't talk about, so I'm going to duplicate that idea this year, only discussing all talents, rather than just the mid- and lower-round ones.

The OP will be continually updated to show the talent I'm reviewing by position. Keep in mind as I list these players that I am generally listing their round projections, but it is not a strict big board, as I likely won't have a big board put together until May.

Spoiler!

**The Franchise** · 10-03-2014, 11:15 AM

Fisher - LDT - Hudson - Fulton - Allen

**The Franchise** · 10-03-2014, 11:18 AM

Although for the love of ****ing God.....move Kush to OG!

Direckshun · 10-03-2014, 11:20 AM

It would be amazing if both LDT and Fulton panned out. I think it's pie in the sky thinking, but how great would that be.

That said, the team has too many needs to needlessly bench/cut Allen or Stephenson, who are nonetheless legitimately high investments at their positions and flashed enough to warrant another year.

After 2015, however, we'll almost certainly let both walk. The team has lots of options at guard in that case (LDT, Kush, maybe they bring back Linkenbach or McGlynn...), but they have squat at tackle. I anticipate they'll either bring Harris back for another year at swing tackle, or draft one high.

OldSchool · 10-03-2014, 12:52 PM

Positions we have to absolutely address via FA or draft:

WR, CB, MLB

Upgrades would be nice:

5-tech, S, RT, both guard positions (although Fulton might get good enough by then and we still have the Canuck developing in the wings).

With all of our draft picks plus FA, if Dorsey can't accomplish that next off-season, then he doesn't deserve to be an NFL GM.

**The Franchise** · 10-03-2014, 12:54 PM

We desperately need WRs.....and a ton of them.

Direckshun · 10-03-2014, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence

We desperately need WRs.....and a ton of them.

I've been playing around with offseason hypotheticals.

I'm thinking the Chiefs can keep Hali, cut Bowe, sign Maclin in FA, keep Avery, and draft a WR in the first round.

Who's in?

OldSchool · 10-03-2014, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun

I've been playing around with offseason hypotheticals.

I'm thinking the Chiefs can keep Hali, cut Bowe, sign Maclin in FA, keep Avery, and draft a WR in the first round.

Who's in?

If we do that, we better draft a guy like Kevin White. Otherwise, we'd have absolutely no WRs who can win a contested 1 on 1 catch in the redzone.

**The Franchise** · 10-03-2014, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun

I've been playing around with offseason hypotheticals.

I'm thinking the Chiefs can keep Hali, cut Bowe, sign Maclin in FA, keep Avery, and draft a WR in the first round.

Who's in?

Maclin isn't leaving the Eagles. They're ALREADY working on a contract mid-season.

**the Talking Can** · 10-03-2014, 01:57 PM

WR is clear #1 need

ilb and cb are obvious needs, and guard i guess (though you should find them later)

but if we aren't going WR in the first, you could make an argument for DE...imagine another disruptor on the line next to poe (and on a rookie salary), multiplier effect

surround those two with cheap labor in the form of bailey, vickerson, and hopefully catapano

Direckshun · 10-03-2014, 02:02 PM

I think Bailey is that disruptor.

OldSchool · 10-03-2014, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun

I think Bailey is that disruptor.

Uhhhh, he has 1 sack, that's mediocre considering how weak the Phins were up front and how weak the Pats were as well. Bailey still looks the same to me, hasn't improved his pass rush moves much at all, just gets stuck on blocks all of the time. We could use an upgrade at both 5-tech positions, but just 1 will do nicely.

OldSchool · 10-03-2014, 02:10 PM

Bailey also only has 5 total tackles.

**the Talking Can** · 10-03-2014, 04:41 PM

i almost added that...if you think highly of bailey, then don't need another

i think he's a fine rotation guy but we could use more as a starter

OldSchool · 10-03-2014, 04:49 PM

One guy who will be a FA next year that I would take a long look at, Jared Odrick from Miami. He was becoming a really good player when Miami was still running a 3-4. Kind of lost in the shuffle now as a DT. I'd gladly welcome his addition to this team as a starting 5-tech who has some ability to rush the passer.

Direckshun · 10-03-2014, 04:51 PM

Odrick was the 1st or 2nd top 3-4 DE that year he came out.

09-24-2014, 02:22 AM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2033447	Talking Draft Prospects We've got perhaps the biggest, most consequential draft coming up for this franchise since 2008. The Chiefs have all seven of their picks, and will certainly be picking up an additional four in compensatory picks, one of which is assuredly a 3rd rounder. As a result, it's important to familiarize ourselves with as much of this draft class as possible. I started a thread last offseason that discussed late rounders that was generally well liked and spurred tons of great conversation on all sorts of draft picks we normally wouldn't talk about, so I'm going to duplicate that idea this year, only discussing all talents, rather than just the mid- and lower-round ones. The OP will be continually updated to show the talent I'm reviewing by position. Keep in mind as I list these players that I am generally listing their round projections, but it is not a strict big board, as I likely won't have a big board put together until May. Spoiler! QB Marcus Mariota, Oregon Jameis Winston, Florida State Brett Hundley, UCLA Connor Cook, Michigan State RB Todd Gurley, Georgia Melvin Gordon, Wisconsin Ameer Abdullah, Nebraska Mike Davis, South Carolina T.J. Yeldon, Alabama Tevin Coleman, Indiana Duke Johnson, Miami Jay Ajayi, Boise State FB WR Sammie Coates, Auburn Amari Cooper, Alabama Dorial Green-Beckham, Oklahoma Ty Montgomery, Stanford Kevin White, West Virginia DeVante Parker, Louisville Jaelen Strong, Arizona State Josh Harper, Fresno State Breshad Perriman, Central Florida Devin Smith, Ohio State Rashad Greene, Florida State TE Devin Funchess, Michigan Maxx Williams, Minnesota OT Cedric Ogbuehi, Texas A&M Brandon Schwerff, Iowa Andrus Peat, Stanford La'el Collins, LSU Spencer Drango, Baylor Ereck Flowers, Miami Cameron Erving, Florida State T.J. Clemmings, Pittsburgh Ronnie Stanley, Notre Dame Ty Sambrailo, Colorado State Jake Fisher, Oregon OG La'el Collins, LSU A.J. McCann, South Carolina Cameron Erving, Florida State Ty Sambrailo, Colorado State Josue Matias, Florida State Laken Tomlinson, Duke C Cameron Erving, Florida State Reese Dismukes, Auburn NT Danny Shelton, Washington Eddie Goldman, Florida State Malcom Brown, Texas Jordan Phillips, Oklahoma 4-3 DT and/or 3-4 DE Leonard Williams, USC Michael Bennett, Ohio State Mario Edwards, Jr., Florida State Malcom Brown, Texas Arik Armstead, Oregon Carl Davis, Iowa 4-3 DE Randy Gregory, Nebraska Shilique Calhoun, Michigan State Dante Fowler, Jr., Florida Shawn Oakman, Baylor Bronson Kaufusi, BYU Alvin Dupree, Kentucky Nate Orchard, Utah Owamagbe Odighizuwa, UCLA Danielle Hunter, LSU 3-4 OLB Randy Gregory, Nebraska Vic Beasley, Clemson Dante Fowler, Jr., Florida Shayne Ray, Missouri Bronson Kaufusi, BYU Lorenzo Maudlin, Louisville Alvin Dupree, Kentucky Nate Orchard, Utah Hau'oli Kikaha, Washington Eli Harold, Virginia Danielle Hunter, LSU 4-3 OLB/WILB Vic Beasley, Clemson Shaq Thompson, Washington Paul Dawson, TCU MLB/SILB Bernardrick McKinney, Mississippi State Denzel Perryman, Miami Eric Kendricks, UCLA CB Ifo Ekpre-Olomo, Oregon P.J. Williams, Florida State Marcus Peters, Washington Trae Waynes, Michigan State Jalen Collins, LSU Alex Carter, Stanford Quentin Rollins, Miami (OH) Kevin Johnson, Wake Forest SS Landon Collins, Alabama Anthony Harris, Virginia FS Gerod Holliman, Louisville K P Last edited by Direckshun; 03-04-2015 at 08:24 PM..
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10-03-2014, 11:15 AM	#61
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The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $2065047	Although for the love of ****ing God.....move Kush to OG!
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10-03-2014, 11:20 AM	#63
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2033447	It would be amazing if both LDT and Fulton panned out. I think it's pie in the sky thinking, but how great would that be. That said, the team has too many needs to needlessly bench/cut Allen or Stephenson, who are nonetheless legitimately high investments at their positions and flashed enough to warrant another year. After 2015, however, we'll almost certainly let both walk. The team has lots of options at guard in that case (LDT, Kush, maybe they bring back Linkenbach or McGlynn...), but they have squat at tackle. I anticipate they'll either bring Harris back for another year at swing tackle, or draft one high.
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10-03-2014, 12:52 PM	#64
OldSchool MVP Join Date: Sep 2013 Casino cash: $10035212	Positions we have to absolutely address via FA or draft: WR, CB, MLB Upgrades would be nice: 5-tech, S, RT, both guard positions (although Fulton might get good enough by then and we still have the Canuck developing in the wings). With all of our draft picks plus FA, if Dorsey can't accomplish that next off-season, then he doesn't deserve to be an NFL GM.
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10-03-2014, 12:54 PM	#65
The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $2065047	We desperately need WRs.....and a ton of them.
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10-03-2014, 01:57 PM	#69
the Talking Can Supporter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: street Casino cash: $9222208	WR is clear #1 need ilb and cb are obvious needs, and guard i guess (though you should find them later) but if we aren't going WR in the first, you could make an argument for DE...imagine another disruptor on the line next to poe (and on a rookie salary), multiplier effect surround those two with cheap labor in the form of bailey, vickerson, and hopefully catapano __________________ Clark Hunt: "Thank god for the Dominican pool boy"
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10-03-2014, 02:02 PM	#70
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2033447	I think Bailey is that disruptor.
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10-03-2014, 02:10 PM	#72
OldSchool MVP Join Date: Sep 2013 Casino cash: $10035212	Bailey also only has 5 total tackles.
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10-03-2014, 04:41 PM	#73
the Talking Can Supporter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: street Casino cash: $9222208	i almost added that...if you think highly of bailey, then don't need another i think he's a fine rotation guy but we could use more as a starter __________________ Clark Hunt: "Thank god for the Dominican pool boy"
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10-03-2014, 04:49 PM	#74
OldSchool MVP Join Date: Sep 2013 Casino cash: $10035212	One guy who will be a FA next year that I would take a long look at, Jared Odrick from Miami. He was becoming a really good player when Miami was still running a 3-4. Kind of lost in the shuffle now as a DT. I'd gladly welcome his addition to this team as a starting 5-tech who has some ability to rush the passer.
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10-03-2014, 04:51 PM	#75
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2033447	Odrick was the 1st or 2nd top 3-4 DE that year he came out.
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