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Old 01-03-2009, 04:05 PM   #1
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it isn't complicated people...
What makes it complicated is that what happens in practice and what happens in reality are two entirely different things.

We've seen this game played before. You're assuming that if Thigpen lights it up next year, that he'll keep his job. We've seen in too many instances that first round QBs are often handed starting jobs they don't deserve.

I'm all for this strategy on the contingency that the head coach will give Thigpen a fair chance to win and keep his starting job, and that he'll be quick to replace Thigpen the minute they realize he isn't the answer. While that sounds like a simple concept, it seems like a decision coaches struggle to make ESPECIALLY when you have a GM that puts pressure on the coach to play the expensive top 10 QB pick.
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Old 01-03-2009, 04:14 PM   #2
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What makes it complicated is that what happens in practice and what happens in reality are two entirely different things.

We've seen this game played before. You're assuming that if Thigpen lights it up next year, that he'll keep his job. We've seen in too many instances that first round QBs are often handed starting jobs they don't deserve.

I'm all for this strategy on the contingency that the head coach will give Thigpen a fair chance to win and keep his starting job, and that he'll be quick to replace Thigpen the minute they realize he isn't the answer. While that sounds like a simple concept, it seems like a decision coaches struggle to make ESPECIALLY when you have a GM that puts pressure on the coach to play the expensive top 10 QB pick.
Its pretty common for first round QB's to sit out their rookie years. Also I wouldn't worry about Thigpen playing lights out in practice, especially if we switch back to a real offense. I think Croyle would be our best QB in practice too...
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Old 01-03-2009, 04:16 PM   #3
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Its pretty common for first round QB's to sit out their rookie years. Also I wouldn't worry about Thigpen playing lights out in practice, especially if we switch back to a real offense. I think Croyle would be our best QB in practice too...
It is becoming more common for high first round QBs to be throw into the fire right away.

Years ago, they were given an opportunity to sit and learn, but the money and pressure have changed that.
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Old 01-03-2009, 04:47 PM   #4
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What makes it complicated is that what happens in practice and what happens in reality are two entirely different things.

We've seen this game played before. You're assuming that if Thigpen lights it up next year, that he'll keep his job. We've seen in too many instances that first round QBs are often handed starting jobs they don't deserve.

I'm all for this strategy on the contingency that the head coach will give Thigpen a fair chance to win and keep his starting job, and that he'll be quick to replace Thigpen the minute they realize he isn't the answer. While that sounds like a simple concept, it seems like a decision coaches struggle to make ESPECIALLY when you have a GM that puts pressure on the coach to play the expensive top 10 QB pick.

i don't give a %$!@ about thigpen
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Old 01-03-2009, 04:49 PM   #5
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i don't give a %$!@ about thigpen
It's like Grbac part Deux
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Old 01-03-2009, 05:07 PM   #6
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i don't give a %$!@ about thigpen
That's a great mentality. You should definitely write the book on a QB because you didn't like how he played for 3 or 4 starts. Thigpen deserves a full offseason to work with coaches, work with receivers, to work on his mechanics, and to work with a full playbook. Because he was third string, he has never had access to any of those until midseason 2008.

Yes, you bring in strong competition and I'd be fine with that being a first round pick. And yes, you yank him if the new QB clearly outperformns Thigpen. And yes, you yank Thigpen if he isn't playing to a very high level in 2009. But the stupidest strategy in the book would be to say that Thigpen doesn't win a job in 2008 no way, no how. Jobs shouldn't be guaranteed to players just because of their draft position.
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Old 01-03-2009, 04:58 PM   #7
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1. You have to draft Sanchez or Stafford if you get the chance.
2. If you can't get one of those two, put all your eggs in Thigpen under a pro-style offense (okay to mix in 30% - 40% spread, but the base needs to be something that can sustain a running game in running situations). Let him show if he has it or not, without accommodation. If he does, great...

3. ... if not lets hope he fails bad enough that we can draft Sanchez next year.

We absolutely have to get a franchise QB. Thigpen, Sanchez, Stafford, whoever.

I don't want a game manager. That would be worst possible fate.
I agree but would throw Bradford in that mix as well
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Old 01-03-2009, 04:24 PM   #8
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Ticky tacky convo going on in here.

I thought it was a GIVEN, that management would be more PATIENT with a 1st round QB over a 7th round PS player. Why the heck is there even a debate?
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We just shouldn't play anyone we draft this year, our team is already young and everyone deserves more time to develop and its too early to give up on any of them.


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Some of you act like it's wrong to develop MORE THAN ONE QB at a time. I'm astounded.
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Why did I just know there'd be someone in the thread saying we need OL instead....some will never learn.
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IM sure its killing Atlanta right now that they didnt take Dorsey or McFadden.
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IM sure its killing Atlanta right now that they didnt take Dorsey or McFadden.
After Ryan calmed down a bit, he has played good in the first half. He threw a bomb to White, White droped the easy catch.
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All I have to say is if these guys don't come out or we aren't in position to get a QB then we better take Taylor Mays cause a OT wouldn't be a good pick for this team and those DE's just don't do it for me.
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All I have to say is if these guys don't come out or we aren't in position to get a QB then we better take Taylor Mays cause a OT wouldn't be a good pick for this team and those DE's just don't do it for me.
You wanna take a free safety with our first pick? What school does he go to? Oh yeah.
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