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Old 12-08-2011, 09:08 AM  
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Pujols signs w Angels
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Old 12-08-2011, 10:37 AM   #76
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Old 12-08-2011, 10:38 AM   #77
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lol, wilson has been a full time starter for over two seasons now. gtfo out of here with that shit
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Old 12-08-2011, 10:39 AM   #78
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You know he is now a starter right?
I think he meant 'star' money.

Sorry, but I watched Wilson come unglued under the pressure of the World Series. He doesn't strike me as a 'money' pitcher.

The Pujols deal is defensible from a business standpoint because that money can be recovered to a large extent through jersey sales, sponsorship deals, etc...

The Wilson deal, OTOH, is a strange one. Wilson doesn't sell jerseys and he doesn't really qualify as a legitimate ace. With Weaver and Haren already in the fold, it seems like they needed Wilson about like they needed a third tit.

I wonder if this was more of a defensive move - getting him out of Texas - than it was one designed to help them out. I also wonder if the Rangers won't feel a push to pursue Fielder in response now. I know they like Moreland a lot, but Moreland's not a star. He's a complimentary player. He's probably not enough to keep the Rangers ahead of the Angels.
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Old 12-08-2011, 10:40 AM   #79
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I wonder if this was more of a defensive move - getting him out of Texas - than it was one designed to help them out. I also wonder if the Rangers won't feel a push to pursue Fielder in response now. I know they like Moreland a lot, but Moreland's not a star. He's a complimentary player. He's probably not enough to keep the Rangers ahead of the Angels.
Rangers are talking with the Cubs for Garza now.
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Old 12-08-2011, 10:46 AM   #80
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its almost the same amount per year miami payed for buerhle.

would you rather have buerhle for the next 4 or wilson for the next five for the same price?
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Old 12-08-2011, 10:47 AM   #81
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Rangers are talking with the Cubs for Garza now.
Not sure that helps them much. They have some spectacular arms in the high minors; Perez is no joke. Worse still, Garza is an extreme fly-ball pitcher; Arlington in the summer would eat him alive. With Feliz making a move to the rotation as well, it seems like they probably need to answer with a little more firepower in the order.

Napoli really proved himself to be a hell of a receiver. Make him the catcher for 115 games instead of the DH and put Fielder at 1b. At that point their worst hitter would be Elvis Andrus.
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Old 12-08-2011, 10:55 AM   #82
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Fine by me.

We got his best years while underpaying him, Anaheim will get his worst years while overpaying him. Glad Mo didn't do something stupid and match.

Now use the money you had earmarked for Albert and go get Fielder, MIF or OF depth.
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I have a dumb question. Does FULL no trade clause mean that the no trade clause is effective for the entirety of the contract?
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Old 12-08-2011, 11:11 AM   #85
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Wow. Terrible move for the angels. He's 32 right?
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Old 12-08-2011, 11:13 AM   #86
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Wow. Terrible move for the angels. He's 32 right?
They'll just pay him to DH. It's really not as bad as Cards fans are trying to make it out to be.

In reality... Pujols will likely being paying himself with all the money he's going to bring in with records being broken, etc...
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They'll just pay him to DH. It's really not as bad as Cards fans are trying to make it out to be.

In reality... Pujols will likely being paying himself with all the money he's going to bring in with records being broken, etc...
Hell, I forgot about the DH thing. I'm a tard. But locking yourself into that kind of money for such a long period of time is still an epic risk. Particularly if revenues decline. Maybe in 10 years, $25M a year might be farm league pay, it's hard to tell, but they are certainly putting themselves out there for a long time.
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Wow. Terrible move for the angels. He's 32 right?
31, theoretically.
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31, theoretically.
32 when the contract starts; that's why you keep seeing that thrown around.

Again - he just hit .299 w/ 99 RBI while batting 3rd in the order of the most potent offensive team in the NL.

Emotionally, this sucks pretty bad. From a baseball standpoint, it was the right decision.

Since baseball is a game and nothing but entertainment, the emotion does matter. But if the Cardinals go out there and win ballgames, all will be forgiven.
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