Police Taze 10 year old girl?

[NewChief]

This happened nearby, and it seems a little crazy. Anyone ever heard of police tazing someone this young?

http://www.ozarksunbound.com/ozarks-...le+Feedfetcher

Ozark police use taser on 10-year-old girl | CF
Clipped Fresh — By Christopher Spencer on November 17, 2009 at 11:55 AM

Police Officer Uses Taser On 10-Year-Old Girl – Local News Story – KHBS NW Arkansas.

FROM THE ARTICLE: Ozark police said they were called to a home where a mother asked for help with her unruly child, but the 10-year-old’s father said he’s outraged at the force police used against his daughter.

“I would like to say Ozark police Tased this little girl right here. Ten years old and [they] shot electricity through her body, and I want to know how the heck in God’s green earth can they get away with this,” said the girl’s father, Anthony Medlock.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by CrazyCoffey

a few years back when I moved to STL, my ex didn't like the idea of sharing airfare and got the idea she could accuse me of abuse to revoke my parental rights, even though I know she and her new husband used belts for corporal punishment. In the end nothing really came of it except one ruined christmas visit, legal costs, and a court order for no more spankings in either household....

hey a spanking with your hand if ok in my book. not a belt or anything else, but a hand....

[Jenson71]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

hey a spanking with your hand if ok in my book. not a belt or anything else, but a hand....

One time my dad gave me a backhand punch thing to the face, and I started bleeding, and then he told me he'd do it again if I got blood on the carpet.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by CrazyCoffey

we don't know much about what really happened, and the first comments some people make is the same as always, that's the "old discussion", how many cops would you guess are in AR? and then compare that number to how many in AR we've seen in the news for any suspecious/questionable activity. The "All cops are pigs" statements based on these few news stories is full on reeruned. If you don't get that, then I've given you too much credit to date, and for that I'll adjust my respect level for you.

Now, we don't know what happened here. I'm a parent and agree I don't like the idea of my 10 or 13 year old being tased, for any reason. But then again, I'm not calling the cops for anything they ever do either, so - I'd have to adjust my frame of reference for this parent of the year nominee and try to wonder how bad this 10 year old is/was being.

It's quite easy to sit your ass at the computer and say "the cop shouldn't do that" but it really is this simple. YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE FACTORS ARE AT PLAY HERE. trying to tackle a 10 year old could have caused more damage than tasing. The facts on the taser are so grossly overblown on this damn site whenever this topic comes up.

I never said all cops are pigs and am not sure how many people here did. Perhaps you could provide that answer.

I do know that some cops are assholes, thus my statement. If you don't get that, then I've given you too much credit to date, and for that I'll adjust my respect level for you.

[underEJ]

Originally Posted by CrazyCoffey

It's not stupid blind defense, it's what I'd call rational thought, I want to know facts before I say someone did something right or wrong.

This is exactly the missing ingredient in alot of people's interactions with law enforcement, and to be fair just because somebody has interactions doesn't mean they are a criminal. I am a CASA worker, and I have seen some really messed up stuff by dangerous suspects that was handled absolutely perfectly by some police.

I have also seen just about as many, not 1:1, but not far off, really messed up actions by police officers who don't employ your rational thought. Children are more often mistreated by law enforcement than I would ever have dared to imagine prior to starting this work, both at the time of incidents, and in custody.

Too often, procedure has replaced reason on the law side, and emotional reaction has replaced it on the public side. I don't know where it goes from here, but it's only getting worse, both for good cops, and for law abiding citizens.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Jenson71

One time my dad gave me a backhand punch thing to the face, and I started bleeding, and then he told me he'd do it again if I got blood on the carpet.

hey i got that too!

[chiefbowe82]

Originally Posted by CrazyCoffey

I've seen a few. Most city/state policies dictate that any cop who carries a taser has been tased....

Yeah our cops got tazers, and had a presentation about them. Apparently our town of 1,800 needs them. Anyway they tazed an officer during their presentation of them.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

Small increments in the news to get the mass populace conditioned to accept this behavior.

I can't believe anybody could justify this behavior against a 10 year old. WAKE UP!

Are people justifying the behavior, or are they refraining from passing judgment because they don't know all the facts?

[WilliamTheIrish]

Originally Posted by CrazyCoffey

It's not stupid blind defense, it's what I'd call rational thought, I want to know facts before I say someone did something right or wrong. Apparently you and a few others are the only ones that know everything there is to know about these incidents.

I never dispassionately exonerated any LEO, in fact I've passionately championed for many of the LEO's that some of CP are so quick to condemn. I say you don't realize what it's like to wear a badge because I've worn one and it's not all ego trips and superiority complexes. I share for the discussion that side of the opinions that are not being represented.

If he had put his hands on the flopping fit throwing kid and dislocated her wrist you'd probably be all over the cop for that. Quite possibly his department could have been too, because the taser is usually before "hands on" in every force continuum policies I've ever seen.

I know this much: Tasing after leaving yourself open for a kick in the coin purse is nothing more than retaliation by shitty cop.

You, sir, are the kind of person that would bitch about the LEO just to bitch about them. And as far as your request for info on the taser, take a class, do the research yourself. I'm not here to teach when I know you aren't truely interested...

Yea, so your one day seminar says it's okay, tasers are harmless. Next time, just say you don't have any idea what they do or how they do it. At least then you'll be telling the truth.

If any other person in the community besides a cop administered this kind of discipline, they'd be escorted to jail.

I wish the officer well. In his next career.

[WilliamTheIrish]

And Coffee, one other thing: I'm as law abiding a human as you will find on this earth. And I'm wise enough to understand we disagree -vehemently - on this issue and most other LE issues.

That doesn't mean I think you would do this. And it doesn't mean that I dislike or disrespect you as a gentleman.
It means that there are an increasing number of LEO's who are ill equipped for the job. It's not officer O'Leary walking a beat anymore.

[Easy 6]

Something is dreadfully off with these parents and kid.

But this is so disgraceful, so dangerous... do taser companies test on 10 year olds?, that its hard to fathom, this 'police officer' couldnt have even put her in cuffs? & MADE her sit, say or do anything before resorting to potentially lethal force on a 10!? year old.

These ****ing tasers, its far outta control... its pussies using them as crutches when a some smart/ballsy police work is whats called for.

These things shouldnt be in the hands of every 'cop', it reminds me of the old joke... What do you call a medical student who graduated last in his class?...Doctor.

...or Policeman.

[RJ]

Wasn't there a thread here a few weeks ago about Ozark cops behaving badly? Anyone recall that?

[crazycoffey]

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish

And Coffee, one other thing: I'm as law abiding a human as you will find on this earth. And I'm wise enough to understand we disagree -vehemently - on this issue and most other LE issues.

That doesn't mean I think you would do this. And it doesn't mean that I dislike or disrespect you as a gentleman.
It means that there are an increasing number of LEO's who are ill equipped for the job. It's not officer O'Leary walking a beat anymore.

ah, I'm in a crappy mood today, hell the last week, anyway. I agree we disagree on alot of these issues, but I'd sure as hell still share a beer and watch the chiefs loose any day of the week with you bro, hope it didn't come off any differently. And it's more than a day seminar on that damn thing, I personally don't like it and when given the choice will leave that damn thing in the locker room. Even the damn military is moving to this crap, had ANOTHER class just last week during some detainee ops training. whatever, though neither here nor there, just didn't want to talk about this topic so long.

and to Pitt, I misused the quotation marks, wasn't trying to quote it like it was something I read you say, more as a generalized sentiment of several posters opinions. that's the only miscommunication I see from my end....

To all others, I've said here today that as a parent I don't like the idea of my kids being tased either, and I've never said it was ok for this officer to do this, I've simply said we don't know all the facts. I think it could be very plausable that the officer would have been in more trouble for putting hands on the minor subject than using a taser. And it is because of how reason has been replaced by procedure, and that sentiment can and has given an otherwise sensible person the feeling of being handcuffed, so to speak.

Scott, taser are not responsible for any death, not on any death certificate, and taser int has not lost any liable suit. It's an unpleasant feeling, and that's about it. I'd rather be tased than maced, any day of the week.

[RJ]

There have always been bad cops, just like there have always been criminal psychopaths. They just all get more attention these days. When I was a teenager, cops ****ed with us all the time for no reason. And sometimes with good reason. But back then, our parents told us it was our own fault for being dumb shits.

I think it's probably better now that police need to be at least somewhat accountable for their actions. Back then they could get away with anything.

[Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Really? Talking can be construed as "interference?"

Actually, yes.

If you distract the police officer, they may miss something happening around them, the perpetrator slipping something out of their pocket to either hide it or else to use it as a weapon, another person slipping up on them from the other direction, etc.

Yeah, when something is going down, for the officer's safety, it's almost always best to stay back and to stay quiet.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan

Actually, yes.

If you distract the police officer, they may miss something happening around them, the perpetrator slipping something out of their pocket to either hide it or else to use it as a weapon, another person slipping up on them from the other direction, etc.

Yeah, when something is going down, for the officer's safety, it's almost always best to stay back and to stay quiet.

If that distracts the officer, I'd hate to see the charges brought against a piece of tin foil.