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Old 09-05-2012, 05:02 PM   #1
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They've won 43 games in 4 years.

Losing Curtis Lofton isn't going to kill them.
They lost at Pittsburgh in their opener with Charlie Batch at QB.

They lost in Chicago in their opener the year before that.

They lose in the playoffs every year. They choke in big games.

Mike Smith and matt Ryan choke on the road quite a bit.

The Falcons are not as good outside.

They have never won at Arrowhead.

They played an easy schedule last year.

They lost to Chicago, Tampa, and Houston - all were running teams last year

They fired their defensive coordinator

Their third string LB is starting and he has already had a concussion.

They run the nickel package 75% of the time.
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Old 09-05-2012, 04:34 PM   #2
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Losing arguably your best defensive player and leading tackler won't hurt your defense?
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Old 09-05-2012, 04:40 PM   #3
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Losing arguably your best defensive player and leading tackler won't hurt your defense?
Only if it's the Chiefs
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Old 09-05-2012, 05:02 PM   #4
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Got it.


Losing arguably your best defensive player and leading tackler won't hurt your defense?
Curtis Lofton was not their best player.

Hell, he was the 16th rated ILB on PFF.

The facts have defeated your weak troll.
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Old 09-05-2012, 05:23 PM   #5
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Curtis Lofton was not their best player.

Hell, he was the 16th rated ILB on PFF.

The facts have defeated your weak troll.
No but he was definately their best player in run defense. Essentially, they traded him for Samuel, who is not good in run defense. Lofton is underrated.

You gotta be careful with PFF. They are flawed in alot of ways.
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Old 09-05-2012, 05:25 PM   #6
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No but he was definately their best player in run defense. Essentially, they traded him for Samuel, who is not good in run defense. Lofton is underrated.

You gotta be careful with PFF. They are flawed in alot of ways.
BlackBob telling me PFF is flawed. That's rich.

According to them, their best run defender was Sean Weatherspoon.

Lofton was good, but hardly elite or anything.
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Old 09-05-2012, 05:29 PM   #7
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BlackBob telling me PFF is flawed. That's rich.

According to them, their best run defender was Sean Weatherspoon.

Lofton was good, but hardly elite or anything.
I'm not saying they aren't useful. However, not everything can be based on stats. Also, who is recording their stats???? Because they aren't official by any means.

Lofton was elite and he was good. I would be suprised if a Falcon fan told you Spoon was better in run defense than Lofton was. It just doesn't seem that way at all. People down here were much higher on Lofton than Spoon. However, perception isn't reality.
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Old 09-05-2012, 04:38 PM   #8
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did everyone forget this is a pessimistic thread. Clay seems to be the only one following the format now.
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Old 09-05-2012, 05:03 PM   #9
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Who is their best defensive player then?


Not their leading tackler?
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Old 09-05-2012, 05:06 PM   #10
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If you put any stock in PFF, the best players on Atlanta's defense last year:

John Abraham
Sean Weatherspoon
Brent Grimes
Jonathan Babineaux
William Moore
Stephen Nicholas
Curtis Lofton

Adding Samuel, who was one of the highest-rated corners, was a good addition.
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Old 09-05-2012, 05:07 PM   #11
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Oooh I do like Spoon, he's a good player. William Moore too.

No sarcasm actually.
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Old 09-05-2012, 05:13 PM   #12
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Oooh I do like Spoon, he's a good player. William Moore too.

No sarcasm actually.
I bet Spoon shadows Charles in this game. Gonna be interesting to see if Cassel starts dumping him the ball blindly when shit goes south, or actually reads the D.
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Old 09-05-2012, 05:20 PM   #13
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I bet Spoon shadows Charles in this game. Gonna be interesting to see if Cassel starts dumping him the ball blindly when shit goes south, or actually reads the D.
Charles and McCluster will wear him out. Spoon got better last year but now he has to run the defense. He's just not Curtis Lofton. I think their defense will be soft.
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Old 09-05-2012, 05:25 PM   #14
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Charles and McCluster will wear him out. Spoon got better last year but now he has to run the defense. He's just not Curtis Lofton. I think their defense will be soft.
He's still playing OLB you mental midget.
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Old 09-05-2012, 05:29 PM   #15
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He's still playing OLB you mental midget.
I know but he's calling the plays and is the captain of the defense. He has the speaker in his helmet this season. Like I said, they will be running the nickel most of the time.
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