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Old 04-28-2013, 01:56 PM   #1
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Don't care.

If we are going to build a dominant line, and we want to maximize it's potential as quickly as we can, you start the rookie LT day one at LT.

Who the hell cares if mediocre game manager gets killed in the development process?
once again ... the anger about Alex Smith is influencing other things.

the goal is not building a dominant line ... it's a means to a end.

best Oline for offensive success THIS year is Albert at LT.
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Old 04-28-2013, 02:03 PM   #2
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once again ... the anger about Alex Smith is influencing other things.

the goal is not building a dominant line ... it's a means to a end.

best Oline for offensive success THIS year is Albert at LT.
Except I am not ANGRY about Fisher. I like the kid a TON.

I am also not ANGRY about Albert. I simply don't overvalue him. GoChiefs has two gears... LOVE or HATE.. he can't comprehend someone like me just LIKING Albert.

Lastly, I'm not angry about Alex Smith. I think it sucks that he was our only decent option this year but it is what it is. I would love a QBOTF to get drafted... but that doesn't make me dislike Smith at all. I liked him at San Fran and thought he constantly got a raw deal.

I have zero anger.. I just want to look at what is best for our FUTURE as team. Playing guys constantly out of position and shuffling shit year to year is not what's best.
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Old 04-28-2013, 02:12 PM   #3
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once again ... the anger about Alex Smith is influencing other things.

the goal is not building a dominant line ... it's a means to a end.

best Oline for offensive success THIS year is Albert at LT.
This isn't anger at the Smith trade.

I am not speculating what the Chiefs will do.

I am commenting on what I believe is the best way to go about building a consistent winner over the long term.

Since I have little faith that Alex Smith is the long term answer at QB, I don't care how the long term development of the line affects Alex Smith.
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Old 04-28-2013, 01:42 PM   #4
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of course Reid and Dorsey are trying to win now.

They believe Alex Smith can win in the NFL or they wouldn't of given 2 valuable draft picks for him.

Even if Alex Smith isn't a franchise type QB, they think he is a playoff type QB and Albert at LT and Fisher at RT is the best chance to succeed and get to the playoffs this year.
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Old 04-28-2013, 01:48 PM   #5
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of course Reid and Dorsey are trying to win now.

They believe Alex Smith can win in the NFL or they wouldn't of given 2 valuable draft picks for him.

Even if Alex Smith isn't a franchise type QB, they think he is a playoff type QB and Albert at LT and Fisher at RT is the best chance to succeed and get to the playoffs this year.
I'm sure they believe they can win now but I doubt they will do so to the detriment of the future of this team. Playing your LTOTF out of position for a year is not a good idea for the future.

Now I could be wrong and Fisher could be even better than I think he is and simply GODLIKE in his ability to adjust and such... if so it still hurts the cohesion of the line to reshuffle next year but it won't be terrible.

Fact is, we would be MUCH better served to get a real RT like Clabo and not have to play anyone out of position. Period.
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Old 04-28-2013, 01:53 PM   #6
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Fact is, we would be MUCH better served to get a real RT like Clabo and not have to play anyone out of position. Period.
They probably would have if a team thought Albert was worth big money and a draft pick.

apparently they don't, so we have to move on


just like the people who didn't like trading for Alex Smith have to 'move on'
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Old 04-28-2013, 01:58 PM   #7
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They probably would have if a team thought Albert was worth big money and a draft pick.

apparently they don't, so we have to move on


just like the people who didn't like trading for Alex Smith have to 'move on'
Except we aren't "stuck" with Albert. We can STILL trade him or better yet convince him to play LG. Signing him long term at LG solves everything.
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Old 04-28-2013, 02:26 PM   #8
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Except we aren't "stuck" with Albert. We can STILL trade him or better yet convince him to play LG. Signing him long term at LG solves everything.
This feels a lot like dejavu...

I only wish we had this conversation when we had the opportunity to draft a true elite level prospect at the OT position...



Imagine how "jelled" this line would have been with Okung at LT and Albert at LG for the past three seasons.
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Make them battle it out in TC and unless Fisher is noticeably inferior as a rook start him at LT. Albert gets sloppy seconds at this point.
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Wish Albert would acquiesce and make the move to LG or RT.

We'd have the makings of a great OL.
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Wish Albert would acquiesce and make the move to LG or RT.

We'd have the makings of a great OL.
We do.

Just stick Fisher at RT and Albert at LT for five years and forget about it.

None of this guard BS.

We need top talent at RT to stop Von Miller anyway.
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Old 04-28-2013, 02:08 PM   #12
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We do.

Just stick Fisher at RT and Albert at LT for five years and forget about it.

None of this guard BS.

We need top talent at RT to stop Von Miller anyway.
Holy crap. You seriously want to play the #1.1 pick at RT and pay 5 years of top 5 money to an above average guy to play LT. The same guy that no one else in the league wanted to pay and give up a 2nd rounder for.

Credibility gone.
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Holy crap. You seriously want to play the #1.1 pick at RT
Well, we made this bed, so now we have to lay in it.

I'd rather go OT-RT than upgrade LG with the 1.1. Even dumber, no doubt.
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Well, we made this bed, so now we have to lay in it.

I'd rather go OT-RT than upgrade LG with the 1.1. Even dumber, no doubt.
So it sounds more like you are basing this on some emotional hatred of the Fisher pick and man-love for Albert. I, on the other hand, am trying to look at what is best for the team.
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Holy crap. You seriously want to play the #1.1 pick at RT and pay 5 years of top 5 money to an above average guy to play LT. The same guy that no one else in the league wanted to pay and give up a 2nd rounder for.

Credibility gone.
After this year the only way Albert plays here is if it's at G or RT. The rookie will get a year at RT and then Albert can switch positions or switch teams...
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