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Old 12-07-2016, 03:52 PM   #1
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The Chiefs defense is

#24 in Points/game

#24 in Total Points
#29 in Yds/game

Not exactly keeping the opposing team from scoring.
KC is #9 in scoring defense. No idea where you came up with your numbers.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/statistics/t...sition/defense
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Old 12-07-2016, 03:08 PM   #2
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If you keep the opposing team from scoring, you're not putting pressure on your offense.

The Chiefs figure with the play makers they have, eventually teams are gonna be forced into a mistake.
That certainly appears to be Reid's game plan.

Take no risks on offense, hope that eventually our defense makes a big play.

But as per thread OP topic, i don't think it's sustainable.


Andy Reid will have to open the offense up, as least as much as he did against the Falcons, or we're dead in the playoffs. He also better do it from now on so that our offense gets used to it.

In reality our playoffs are starting tomorrow.

coming up for us:
Raiders
Titans
Denver

All competing for "our" playoff spot.
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Old 12-07-2016, 04:40 PM   #3
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How many people have heard of the "toxic differential"? It's an interesting metric that combines turnover differential with big play differential. It's actually been a fairly accurate predictor of success in the NFL, although like any metric their are outliers.
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Old 12-07-2016, 04:42 PM   #4
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How many people have heard of the "toxic differential"? It's an interesting metric that combines turnover differential with big play differential. It's actually been a fairly accurate predictor of success in the NFL, although like any metric their are outliers.
That's Brian billicks thing correct?

I like it. Seems pretty predictive.
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Old 12-07-2016, 04:44 PM   #5
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That's Brian billicks thing correct?

I like it. Seems pretty predictive.
It is. His mantra is something along the lines of, "it's not good enough to just protect the ball, you need to generate big plays on offense too."
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Old 12-07-2016, 04:47 PM   #6
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That's Brian billicks thing correct?

I like it. Seems pretty predictive.
Yes. It does seem to align pretty well with teams that have success.
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Old 12-07-2016, 04:43 PM   #7
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How many people have heard of the "toxic differential"? It's an interesting metric that combines turnover differential with big play differential. It's actually been a fairly accurate predictor of success in the NFL, although like any metric their are outliers.
I've seen it. Last I looked, we were in the middle of the pack overall and dead last in the division - mostly due to big play differential.
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Old 12-07-2016, 05:00 PM   #8
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The question was asked earlier about takeaways in the 90's. Here is what I found on Kcchiefs.com

In 1999, Under Cunningham, Kansas City led the NFL with a +21 turnover ratio and won the NFL's turnover triple crown in the '90s with a remarkable +128 turnover ratio, a league-high 365 takeaways and an NFL-low 237 giveaways. The Chiefs also recorded 11 return TDs on the season, including a franchise-best nine on defense.
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Old 12-07-2016, 05:02 PM   #9
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The question was asked earlier about takeaways in the 90's. Here is what I found on Kcchiefs.com

In 1999, Under Cunningham, Kansas City led the NFL with a +21 turnover ratio and won the NFL's turnover triple crown in the '90s with a remarkable +128 turnover ratio, a league-high 365 takeaways and an NFL-low 237 giveaways. The Chiefs also recorded 11 return TDs on the season, including a franchise-best nine on defense.
...and went on to win the Superbowl
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Old 12-07-2016, 07:05 PM   #10
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Old 12-07-2016, 11:38 PM   #11
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There isn't anything magical about the postseason. Plenty of teams have made runs feasting off TOs
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Old 12-07-2016, 11:49 PM   #12
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Teams do turn the ball over in the postseason. But it is hard to imagine getting more than a couple. For KC we need turnovers deep in the opponent territory for our conservative O to get some easy points. The current trend seems to be the opposite I.e. Getting turnovers in our red zone so the offense has to drive down the field to take full advantage. That's where my skepticism is from. Where the turnover occurs seems more critical for our offense. That Denver game never goes into OT if we take full advantage of the muffed punt. Momentum would have completely swung our way had we scored.
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Old 12-18-2016, 03:17 PM   #13
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