Chiefs Do You Suffer from TFS? True Fan Syndrome? If So, We Can Help - Page 8

'Hamas' Jenkins · 10:48 PM

Do you lie awake at nights dreaming of 8-8, or 9-7?

Do you judge a season as a success by a Wild Card birth?

Do you believe that defenses and running games are more important than franchise QBs?

Do you hate wide receivers?

Do you love coaches with a complete inability to spot talent at the running back position?

Do you think that 3-13 is better for the long term future of the franchise than 2-14?

Do you think the 2002 Bucs and 2000 Ravens are model NFL teams to aspire to?

Do you find playoff records to be irrelevant?

Do you believe that guards and right tackles should be taken with top five picks?

Do you believe that a quarterback is best served as a game manager?

Do you believe that every 3rd Down play should either be a screen or a draw?

Do you believe kicker is the most important position on the offense?

Do you believe that all of the best prospects reside in the Big XII?

Do you believe in trading down in any situation during the draft?

Do you believe that a team is better served picking 20 rather than 5 because they don't have to pay the player as much?

Do you believe that the only way to be a winning team is to throw money at the most expensive Free Agents every year, regardless of need?

Do you judge QBOTF by their box scores?

Do you think that risk is scary, and therefore, wish to draft last in every round to avoid the perception of failure?

Do you think that Marty and Bill Cowher are the only two coaches left on the planet?

Do you think that Gunther was once a great coordinator?

Do you think that reaction is safer than action?

Do you think every other team that actually drafted a QBOTF just 'got lucky' and that it could never happen to us?

Is your name [alias of claythan and hootie]?

Do you prefer tailgating to Championships?

Do you fear the unknown?

Do you believe that 'being close in the 4th quarter' is the objective of an offense?

Do you believe that the run sets up the pass?

Do you believe that Stafford "has done nothing worth mentioning" in college?

Do you think QBs don't need to know how to play from under the center, and that learning 5 and 7 step drops is irrelevant because once Thigpen completed a 7 yard pass to a hall of fame tight end in quadruple coverage?

If so, you may suffer from TFS, True Fan Syndrome. Here at the ChiefsPlanet Clinic, our staff of experts can help rid you of this debilitating malady. Through study of game tape of such contests as Super Bowl XXIII we can help ameliorate the effects of play not to lose football.

Upon registering at our world-renowned clinic, you will be given the following ID badge:

After six weeks of therapy, our cure rate for TFS approaches 91%, which ironically, is slightly better than Herm Edwards' losing percentage the last 23 games.

If you or a loved one suffers from TFS, please, contact us immediately.

We're here to help.

Sincerely,

The ChiefsPlanet Clinic

**the Talking Can** · 12-17-2008, 08:23 PM

this thread scores 1000

**DeezNutz** · 12-17-2008, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Moon is the only Super Bowl era quarterback to be in the Hall that never made the big game.

Ok. Then this list comes to a close.

One. Only one franchise-level QB has never made the big dance. This is a good bar. I would say that all franchise-level QB's are likely HOF worthy.

ChiefsCountry · 12-17-2008, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Ok. Then this list comes to a close.

One. Only one franchise-level QB has never made the big dance. This is a good bar. I would say that all franchise-level QB's are likely HOF worthy.

Actually forgot Dan Fouts. Make that two.

**DeezNutz** · 12-17-2008, 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Actually forgot Dan Fouts. Make that two.

Neg. rep. your way.

Two. ****ing two. If this doesn't highlight the importance of trying to find a QB of this caliber, I don't know what does.

FringeNC · 12-17-2008, 08:36 PM

Do you believe that 'being close in the 4th quarter' is the objective of an offense?

When Herm makes that comment -- followed by "and that's all you can hope for, really" -- I just want to scream. How can anyone agree with that nonsense?

ChiefsCountry · 12-17-2008, 08:37 PM

Here is the Hall of Fame Quarterback List

Winners
Bart Starr (2)
Joe Namath
Len Dawson
Johnny Unitas
Roger Stabuach (2)
Bob Griese (2)
Terry Bradshaw (4)
Joe Montana (4)
Troy Aikman (3)
Steve Young
John Elway (2)

Losers in the Super Bowl
Sonny Jurgensen
Fran Tarkenton
Dan Marino
Jim Kelly

Didn’t Make It
Dan Fouts
Warren Moon

Pre-Super Bowl Era
*George Blanda (kicker in the Super Bowl)
Otto Graham
Bobby Layne
YA Tittle
Norm Van Brocklin
Bob Waterfield

**OnTheWarpath15** · 12-17-2008, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

I agree with this completely.

A good question would be, can you (the Planet at large) name a franchise QB who never reached the SB? Don't have to win it. Just get there.

How are you guys evaluating who's a franchise QB, and who's not?

Based on the simple fact they were drafted as high as they were, you'd have to say any QB drafted in the top 5-10 would be a franchise QB, correct?

**OnTheWarpath15** · 12-17-2008, 08:47 PM

Hamas-

You need to add this in some form:

Do you believe that the only way to be a winning team is to throw money at the most expensive Free Agents every year, regardless of need?

'Hamas' Jenkins · 12-17-2008, 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Do you thank spending decades wading through franchise QB contracts spent on, JaMarcus Russell, Vince Young, Matt Leinart, Cutler, Alex Smith, Carson Palmer, Byron Leftwich, David Carr, Joey Harrington, Michael Vick, Chad Pennington, Tim Couch, Akili Smith, Daunte Culpepper and Ryan Leaf is worth the chance to get the Manning brothers.

There are teams that found themselves on premier WRs and QBs, it's the Lions, Cardinals, and the Vikes of the 90s.

Oh look, it's Marty's #1 fan, the man who said Bob Sanders was more valuable to the Colts than Peyton Manning.

By all means, let's take his draft-by-fear based approach and hope that we hit on a 9th round QB from Western Mennonite Tech.

You also left out Terry Bradshaw, Troy Aikman, John Elway, forgot that Cutler and Palmer are actually good, Ben Roethlisberger, Dan Marino, Jim Kelly, among others.

Oh, and by the way, Captain TF, those great Marty teams, both pre and post-Chief who was he continually losing to in the playoffs?

Elway X3
Kelly X2
Marino X2

Clearly, we're much better off just getting a role player and spending a top 10 pick on a right tackle or strong safety, eh?

Reerun_KC · 12-17-2008, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FringeNC

Do you believe that 'being close in the 4th quarter' is the objective of an offense?

When Herm makes that comment -- followed by "and that's all you can hope for, really" -- I just want to scream. How can anyone agree with that nonsense?

But the supporters will argue that the team is void of talent, then boast about the talent that we have....

98% of the supporters arguments contradict themselves...

Its sad but its fact...

'Hamas' Jenkins · 12-17-2008, 09:42 PM

They don't get any "true fanner" than this shit:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Jags are what I've long aspired for the Chiefs to be, only I'd want a D as good as the '00 Ravens to boot.
Funny they have all the hallmarks of what Marty tried to instill, right down to a mini-RBBC that is far from a laughingstock, solid low-profile QB who doesn't make mistakes, disciplined line play, etc.

**The Bad Guy** · 12-17-2008, 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FringeNC

Do you believe that 'being close in the 4th quarter' is the objective of an offense?

When Herm makes that comment -- followed by "and that's all you can hope for, really" -- I just want to scream. How can anyone agree with that nonsense?

A ****ing men.

You know what I want a coach to say? The objective is to blow them the hell out for 3 quarters so we can get the bench guys in for mop up duty.

It's a ****ing loser attitude. It's like being the last one cut from the baseball team. Well at least you were "close" to making it.

You dumb Herm asslickers want a leader that just wants to be "close" in the fourth quarter. When teams are close to Herm Edwards in the 4th quarter, Herm goes into a shell. He can keep pointing to those single-digit losses. All that tells me is that he can't close the deal.

Mecca · 12-17-2008, 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

They don't get any "true fanner" than this shit:

The Jags committed to their game manager QB and now they blow...that philosophy of building a team isn't even consistent anymore.

**DeezNutz** · 12-17-2008, 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

How are you guys evaluating who's a franchise QB, and who's not?

Based on the simple fact they were drafted as high as they were, you'd have to say any QB drafted in the top 5-10 would be a franchise QB, correct?

That's a tough question to give a straight, simple answer to. The best way I can put it is: indisputable, superior talent.

Warren Moon is a great example. No one with half a brain would question that he was a great, great player. Contrast him with Green. Here's a player who went to a Pro-Bowl, had some very nice seasons, but was very much a system guy. I'm not knocking system guys; you can win with them, but I'm looking for a higher tier.

In short, this is subjective. Good banter for bars or message boards.

**DeezNutz** · 12-17-2008, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

A ****ing men.

You know what I want a coach to say? The objective is to blow them the hell out for 3 quarters so we can get the bench guys in for mop up duty.

It's a ****ing loser attitude. It's like being the last one cut from the baseball team. Well at least you were "close" to making it.

You dumb Herm asslickers want a leader that just wants to be "close" in the fourth quarter. When teams are close to Herm Edwards in the 4th quarter, Herm goes into a shell. He can keep pointing to those single-digit losses. All that tells me is that he can't close the deal.

"Well, I was close to landing the pussy..."

"So, you're saying you're still a virgin?"

"Yeah, but all you can really ask for is to be close..."

"Um...unless you want your dick wet..."

12-17-2008, 04:09 PM
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7179572	Do You Suffer from TFS? True Fan Syndrome? If So, We Can Help Do you lie awake at nights dreaming of 8-8, or 9-7? Do you judge a season as a success by a Wild Card birth? Do you believe that defenses and running games are more important than franchise QBs? Do you hate wide receivers? Do you love coaches with a complete inability to spot talent at the running back position? Do you think that 3-13 is better for the long term future of the franchise than 2-14? Do you think the 2002 Bucs and 2000 Ravens are model NFL teams to aspire to? Do you find playoff records to be irrelevant? Do you believe that guards and right tackles should be taken with top five picks? Do you believe that a quarterback is best served as a game manager? Do you believe that every 3rd Down play should either be a screen or a draw? Do you believe kicker is the most important position on the offense? Do you believe that all of the best prospects reside in the Big XII? Do you believe in trading down in any situation during the draft? Do you believe that a team is better served picking 20 rather than 5 because they don't have to pay the player as much? Do you believe that the only way to be a winning team is to throw money at the most expensive Free Agents every year, regardless of need? Do you judge QBOTF by their box scores? Do you think that risk is scary, and therefore, wish to draft last in every round to avoid the perception of failure? Do you think that Marty and Bill Cowher are the only two coaches left on the planet? Do you think that Gunther was once a great coordinator? Do you think that reaction is safer than action? Do you think every other team that actually drafted a QBOTF just 'got lucky' and that it could never happen to us? Is your name [alias of claythan and hootie]? Do you prefer tailgating to Championships? Do you fear the unknown? Do you believe that 'being close in the 4th quarter' is the objective of an offense? Do you believe that the run sets up the pass? Do you believe that Stafford "has done nothing worth mentioning" in college? Do you think QBs don't need to know how to play from under the center, and that learning 5 and 7 step drops is irrelevant because once Thigpen completed a 7 yard pass to a hall of fame tight end in quadruple coverage? If so, you may suffer from TFS, True Fan Syndrome. Here at the ChiefsPlanet Clinic, our staff of experts can help rid you of this debilitating malady. Through study of game tape of such contests as Super Bowl XXIII we can help ameliorate the effects of play not to lose football. Upon registering at our world-renowned clinic, you will be given the following ID badge: After six weeks of therapy, our cure rate for TFS approaches 91%, which ironically, is slightly better than Herm Edwards' losing percentage the last 23 games. If you or a loved one suffers from TFS, please, contact us immediately. We're here to help. Sincerely, The ChiefsPlanet Clinic Last edited by 'Hamas' Jenkins; 02-15-2010 at 10:48 PM..
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