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Old 01-03-2009, 03:18 PM   #1
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Morningstar is tricky.
One game that he doesn't look like ass.
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Old 01-03-2009, 03:20 PM   #2
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One game that he doesn't look like ass.
He's been OK in the games I've seen.
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Old 01-03-2009, 03:25 PM   #3
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He's been OK in the games I've seen.
He's played well all season so far
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Old 01-03-2009, 03:30 PM   #4
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He's been OK in the games I've seen.
Eh, he will do OK, and then have a complete bonehead ass move. IMO he hasn't made enough above average play to make up for the bonehead ones. I think Releford should have been at least been given some PT to see what he's got. I think his upside is much much higher than Morningstar's.

Honestly though, I gotta give Self the benefit of the doubt. If Morningstar puts together more efforts like today, he needs to be in there. Today his 3s were very VERY timely, and played well handling the pressure for the most part.
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Old 01-03-2009, 03:25 PM   #5
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Nice win! If Morningstar keeps playing like this, I might change my mind about him.
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Old 01-03-2009, 03:26 PM   #6
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very nice win today. Completely dominated the game from start to finish. Sherron and Cole were animals today
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Old 01-03-2009, 03:43 PM   #7
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so does this count as Morningstar being able to play well against someone good?

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Old 01-03-2009, 04:09 PM   #8
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As for this game, well Collins played better than I've ever seen from him. He was far more in control than usual, and made some great passes while driving. He also hit his FT's down the stretch. When is able to give that kind of effort consistently, this team won't lose often.

Aldrich of course was great on both ends of the floor, but you almost expect that from him at this point. He'll be a lottery pick come June if he keeps playing like this.
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Old 01-03-2009, 04:12 PM   #9
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Just got back from the game. It was a pretty good one. Nice to see Mario Little out there. Cole was solid, Sherron was the leader, and everybody else played their role well.
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Old 01-03-2009, 04:15 PM   #10
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I sat through this thinking, this is exactly what this team needed at this point and they responded exactly like they needed to respond. Dominant on offense against man, stymied but steadied down the stretch against the zone. Still pushed to show that a good ten minutes doesn't win you the game.

That announcer was about to JIZZ IN HIS PANTS for the Vols to come back and win this, from halftime on. No respect for KU on their home court, just an hour of how if the Vols would stop playing shitty, they'd win this thing.
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Old 01-03-2009, 04:33 PM   #11
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I sat through this thinking, this is exactly what this team needed at this point and they responded exactly like they needed to respond. Dominant on offense against man, stymied but steadied down the stretch against the zone. Still pushed to show that a good ten minutes doesn't win you the game.

That announcer was about to JIZZ IN HIS PANTS for the Vols to come back and win this, from halftime on. No respect for KU on their home court, just an hour of how if the Vols would stop playing shitty, they'd win this thing.
Yeah, no respect. Now lets see what happens vs Sienna then at Mich. State.
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Old 01-03-2009, 10:59 PM   #12
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If Morningstar continues to hit shots at the rate he is (48% or something?), I'm fine with him continuing to play these minutes.

However, I expect good one-on-one players will expose him in the future.
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Old 01-04-2009, 10:31 AM   #13
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If Morningstar continues to hit shots at the rate he is (48% or something?), I'm fine with him continuing to play these minutes.

However, I expect good one-on-one players will expose him in the future.
Self has already been putting Morningstar on the best scorer the other team has .... what more do you want?

he has defended everything from:

Temple's leading scorer, a jitterbug senior guard who averages 20 ppgs. Morningstar held him to 3 points in first half without fouling.

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Arizona's lead scorer(until he faced morningstar) 6'7 shooting forward, Chase Budinger. Morninstar held him to 3 points in 30 minutes ... again without fouling. Budinger ending up getting 5 points ... 12 points below his average.

so morningstar defends 5'5" scoring guards to 6'7 shooting forwards and held both down without fouling.


still bitching about morningstar ??

he avg 7.8 ppg and shoots close to 50% from 3pt range ... he doesn't turn the ball over and he can play 30+ minutes each without fouling out even though he draws the top defensive assignments that used to be saved for Brandon Rush.

guess what .... Morningstar didn't even play last year so he is still learning.
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Old 01-04-2009, 02:30 PM   #14
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he has defended everything from:

Temple's leading scorer, a jitterbug senior guard who averages 20 ppgs. Morningstar held him to 3 points in first half without fouling.

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Arizona's lead scorer(until he faced morningstar) 6'7 shooting forward, Chase Budinger. Morninstar held him to 3 points in 30 minutes ... again without fouling. Budinger ending up getting 5 points ... 12 points below his average.
So he's been able to adequately cover two jump shooters who hardly ever drive, is that what your saying?

If he faces players that have the ability or willingness to attack him, he will be exposed like the Syracuse game.

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he avg 7.8 ppg and shoots close to 50% from 3pt range ... he doesn't turn the ball over and he can play 30+ minutes each without fouling out even though he draws the top defensive assignments that used to be saved for Brandon Rush.
He doesn't have Rush's long arms and quick feet, and will struggle in the long run if that's the role they put him in.

That said, he's basically the only player on the team making jump shots which opens the floor for Sherron and Cole, so you have to leave him in there for now.
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Old 01-03-2009, 11:29 PM   #15
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