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Old 02-26-2012, 11:38 AM  
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Rumor: Redskins prepared to offer at least 4 picks for the #2 pick.
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Teams sources tell NBC Philadelphia's Howard Eskin the Redskins are prepared to offer the Rams their top three 2012 picks and "at least" their 2013 first-round pick to move up to draft Baylor QB Robert Griffin III.

If true, it would be a positively Ricky Williams-ian haul for the Rams, who saw the value of their No. 2 pick increase even further on Sunday when Griffin was unofficially timed at a blazing 4.38 in the 40 at the Combine. Eskin's report comes two days after SI.com's Tony Pauline reported the Rams have engaged in "exploratory talks" with the Redskins about a swap. Source: Howard Eskin on Twitter
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Old 02-26-2012, 05:17 PM   #106
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Being able to offer two firsts this year should put them in the driver's seat.
It's been discussed on here, but what people are overlooking is the fact that the Browns can trade two first rounders to the Rams and allow them to stay high enough to get a blue chip prospect at a position of need.


The Chiefs can't do that. Therefor if the Browns are in the mix, the Chiefs would likely have to double what the Browns can give.
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Old 02-26-2012, 05:21 PM   #107
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The Redskins will never learn trading away all their draft picks almost every year
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Old 02-26-2012, 05:22 PM   #108
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I want to draft a young franchise sure fire quarterback in teh first round as much as anyone on the board.


But we just aren't in a spot to do that.

We are on the fringe of having the team built at every spot on the field. One great draft will really set this team. I know the thing to do is just give up as many picks as you have to to get to the top, but that really kills your team.

At this point, our best bet is to bring in a healthy P. Manning or Orton for a year and go for the guy next year.
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Old 02-26-2012, 05:34 PM   #109
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We haven't won a playoff game in NINETEEN years. That isn' franchise killing?

Let me offer another sobering statistic: During Peyton Mannning's LIFE, yes, during this FRANCHISE QUARTERBACK's time on this earth, the Chiefs have an AVERAGE regular season record of 7-9.

You're worried about "killing" a franchise, yet the Chiefs have been the very definition of mediocrity since a future HALL OF FAME FRANCHISE QUARTERBACK popped out of his momma's womb. Why? They have followed your sage words of wisdom.
Peyton mannings are very very difficult to find. I'm talking about a qb so good he alone can carry a mediocre team to the super bowl. if you trade away all your future draft picks, that's what you're asking rgIII to be.

This franchise qb concept is getting out of control. unless we are monumentally lucky, even if we are aggressive, we won't get Brady or brees. We have to try to get a brees type qb, but we have to build our team as if the best we can get is Matt Ryan or a Joe flacco or a Philip rivers type qb. These guys are good qbs, but theyre bot going to get you to the super bowl unless you give them a very good supporting cast. Hell, even Eli might fall into that category.

Building around your qb to the point where for 2-3 years, you take away virtually every chance to bring in young talent is a really, really bad strategy.
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Old 02-26-2012, 05:36 PM   #110
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Surprised that no one has mentioned it.. but what about tagging and trading Carr to Tampa Bay for the #5 pick. With the #5 and #11 picks we could be serious contenders in any trade for the #2.
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Old 02-26-2012, 05:38 PM   #111
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I think suitors for Carr could include the vikings, the bucs, the panthers at a minimum. I mean, just the broad base of interested teams could drive his value up, imo.
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Old 02-26-2012, 05:40 PM   #112
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Surprised that no one has mentioned it.. but what about tagging and trading Carr to Tampa Bay for the #5 pick. With the #5 and $11 picks we could be serious contenders in any trade for the #2.
Because Tampa can draft Morris clayborne. And given how much Carr will get paid, clayborne will probably be twice as cheap.

I don't know why people think teams would rather sign an expensive veteran in the top 5 than a cheap young guy.
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Old 02-26-2012, 05:44 PM   #113
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Because Tampa can draft Morris clayborne. And given how much Carr will get paid, clayborne will probably be twice as cheap.

I don't know why people think teams would rather sign an expensive veteran in the top 5 than a cheap young guy.
Throw in a 2nd rounder! That will make RGIII more attainable!
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Old 02-26-2012, 05:45 PM   #114
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We haven't won a playoff game in NINETEEN years. That isn' franchise killing?

Let me offer another sobering statistic: During Peyton Mannning's LIFE, yes, during this FRANCHISE QUARTERBACK's time on this earth, the Chiefs have an AVERAGE regular season record of 7-9.

You're worried about "killing" a franchise, yet the Chiefs have been the very definition of mediocrity since a future HALL OF FAME FRANCHISE QUARTERBACK popped out of his momma's womb. Why? They have followed your sage words of wisdom.
Hmm...I forget, how many draft picks did the Colts have to trade away to draft Peyton Manning?
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Old 02-26-2012, 05:47 PM   #115
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You draft a franchise Qb when you have a top 5 pick. Or can at the least, reasonably move there. We had 2. Didn't happen. Oh well. You can gamble 1 really high pick on a franchise QB. Gambling 6+ is epically ****ing stupid.
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Old 02-26-2012, 05:48 PM   #116
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Because Tampa can draft Morris clayborne. And given how much Carr will get paid, clayborne will probably be twice as cheap.

I don't know why people think teams would rather sign an expensive veteran in the top 5 than a cheap young guy.
...because Carr is a proven commodity... Clayborne is far far far from proven and could be a complete bust. I'm not saying Tampa will see it that way, but don't act like it's out of the realm of possibility.
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Old 02-26-2012, 05:50 PM   #117
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...because Carr is a proven commodity... Clayborne is far far far from proven and could be a complete bust. I'm not saying Tampa will see it that way, but don't act like it's out of the realm of possibility.
This goes against everything anybody believes in. That you Build teams through the draft, not free agency. I can't remember the last time a team traded out of a top 5 pick so they could sign a free agent instead. Anybody remember? (and no, I am not talking about a trade down).
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Old 02-26-2012, 05:54 PM   #118
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I think the Redskins are gonna make the necessary moves to get him and we won't be able to top it, nor will we try.
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Hmm...I forget, how many draft picks did the Colts have to trade away to draft Peyton Manning?
How many Super Bowls have the Colts had in Peyton Manning's lifetime? How many Super Bowl's have the Chiefs had in Peyton Manning's lifetime?

I don't care how many picks it takes. When you are talking about not winning Super Bowls within a players LIFETIME, you're doing something wrong.
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ya, let's just never get a franchise QB. Because what we've been doing, boy it's working amiright?
Or we could just draft the franchise QB who falls down the first since they tend to be better than the ones drafted high.
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