Trotter "almost a LOCK" to sign with the Chiefs!!! - Page 9

**DaKCMan AP** · 03-02-2005, 12:04 PM

Mort just reported this on ESPNews when he mentioned that Trotter's in KC today.

milkman · 03-02-2005, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Why do people keep wanting to move Mitchell? He's a MIDDLE LINEBACKER. If he's not good enough to get on the field there, sit his ass on the bench.

I think it's that people, in spite of the fact they should be used to it, don't want to see Mitchell be another in a long line of 2nd round busts.

Wallcrawler · 03-02-2005, 01:58 PM

Its pretty amusing to see stuff like that. If a guy sucks, and cant play intelligently at one position, they suggest moving him somewhere else.

On the outside, Mitchell would have a rougher time than inside. Can you imagine him trying to cover a Tight End or slot receiver? Please.

When you have played most of your career at one position, youre supposed to know what youre doing. Making the transition from college to NFL is tough, when you know the position youre playing.

Moving to a completely different position and trying to learn all of that from scratch at the NFL level wont do Kawika Mitchell any good at all, at least not for a couple years even if he was able to grasp it.

If you want an OLB, sign/draft and OLB. Dont go moving MLBs to OLB just because they cant seem to get their head out of their ass.

The chiefs have been doing it for years putting safeties out at the CB position. It hasnt worked well at all. If you want someone to play a position, get someone already at that position.

Coogs · 03-02-2005, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Yes. Well at least in a Nickel your MLB will. Or at least typically does.

So what would be the problem then if he is a "2 down" LB. I would assume on 3rd and short he would be on the field, or the DC would have some explanin' to do.

matts22 · 03-02-2005, 02:00 PM

I'm sorry, I'm new here, but Mitchell is not a good MLB. Yes, he gets the job done sometimes, but that's not all there is to a MLB. He is THE leader of the defense, and Mitchell hasn't shown me anything that says he can be the leader (even of a pitiful defense).

**petegz28** · 03-02-2005, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

So what would be the problem then if he is a "2 down" LB. I would assume on 3rd and short he would be on the field, or the DC would have some explanin' to do.

I agree 100%. But if you get in a tweener down like 3rd and 7 on the offensive 25 you might pull him maybe drop Fuji in coverage and blitz stills and hopfully Johnson. That's where the DC has to get creative I guess. And that is IF you pull Trotter.

ROYC75 · 03-02-2005, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by The Stinger

Its pretty amusing to see stuff like that. If a guy sucks, and cant play intelligently at one position, they suggest moving him somewhere else.

On the outside, Mitchell would have a rougher time than inside. Can you imagine him trying to cover a Tight End or slot receiver? Please.

When you have played most of your career at one position, youre supposed to know what youre doing. Making the transition from college to NFL is tough, when you know the position youre playing.

Moving to a completely different position and trying to learn all of that from scratch at the NFL level wont do Kawika Mitchell any good at all, at least not for a couple years even if he was able to grasp it.

If you want an OLB, sign/draft and OLB. Dont go moving MLBs to OLB just because they cant seem to get their head out of their ass.

The chiefs have been doing it for years putting safeties out at the CB position. It hasnt worked well at all. If you want someone to play a position, get someone already at that position.

Actually Mitchell has good speed in dropping in the pass coverage. It was mentioned by many scouts that before he moved to MLB in college, he was better served on the OLB position.

But those were old reports. We have all seen 1st hand, he provides nothing but a blocking buddy in the middle.

Coogs · 03-02-2005, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

I agree 100%. But if you get in a tweener down like 3rd and 7 on the offensive 25 you might pull him maybe drop Fuji in coverage and blitz stills and hopfully Johnson. That's where the DC has to get creative I guess. And that is IF you pull Trotter.

If you have 2 good CB's (we need at least 1), 2 good safeties (again, we need at least 1), and a good nickel back (Woods maybe?), that would seem like the ideal thing to do on 3rd and 7.

**petegz28** · 03-02-2005, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

If you have 2 good CB's (we need at least 1), 2 good safeties (again, we need at least 1), and a good nickel back (Woods maybe?), that would seem like the ideal thing to do on 3rd and 7.

K you lost me with Woods at nickelback. I like Woods but I just think he is old and done. But now Benny Sapp at nickel I can go for.
I think Harts can be a good Safety. I was more impressed with him last year than Woods. Maybe it is just his youth.

Coogs · 03-02-2005, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

K you lost me with Woods at nickelback. I like Woods but I just think he is old and done. But now Benny Sapp at nickel I can go for.
I think Harts can be a good Safety. I was more impressed with him last year than Woods. Maybe it is just his youth.

I was just thinking Woods played nickel back for us early in the season last year, and did fairly well. Could be wrong though.

htismaqe · 03-02-2005, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

K you lost me with Woods at nickelback. I like Woods but I just think he is old and done. But now Benny Sapp at nickel I can go for.
I think Harts can be a good Safety. I was more impressed with him last year than Woods. Maybe it is just his youth.

Harts > Woods

Pile > Harts

Chiefnj · 03-02-2005, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

So what would be the problem then if he is a "2 down" LB. I would assume on 3rd and short he would be on the field, or the DC would have some explanin' to do.

I honestly don't know which MLB's on other teams come off the field in pass situations - does Edwards in SD - I doubt it, does Urlacher, Vilma? Although MLB's they might be better than some of the OLB's on those teams.

I recall seeing Mitchell in on a lot of pass plays. I specifically recall at least two instances where he was 30 yards downfield and a ball hit him in the back or back of the head.

Nightfyre · 03-02-2005, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj

I honestly don't know which MLB's on other teams come off the field in pass situations - does Edwards in SD - I doubt it, does Urlacher, Vilma? Although MLB's they might be better than some of the OLB's on those teams.

I recall seeing Mitchell in on a lot of pass plays. I specifically recall at least two instances where he was 30 yards downfield and a ball hit him in the back or back of the head.

WEll, maybe we should line him up at CB, he is one step ahead of bartee if hes stopping the play with his back turned.

tomahawk kid · 03-02-2005, 02:43 PM

The suspense is starting to get to me. I want to see something confirmed.

Nightfyre · 03-02-2005, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by tomahawk kid

The suspense is starting to get to me. I want to see something confirmed.

exactly!

Nightfyre · 03-02-2005, 02:45 PM

Actually, my eagles fan friend said Trotter would never sign with anyone but the eagles. I really want to rub it in his face. Like print off the story and tape it to his door or something.

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matts22 Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Casino cash: $10004900	I'm sorry, I'm new here, but Mitchell is not a good MLB. Yes, he gets the job done sometimes, but that's not all there is to a MLB. He is THE leader of the defense, and Mitchell hasn't shown me anything that says he can be the leader (even of a pitiful defense).
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tomahawk kid Drunk in the Neighborhood Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Beating the War Drums Casino cash: $10001837	The suspense is starting to get to me. I want to see something confirmed.
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Nightfyre MVP Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Helena, MT Casino cash: $1298849	Actually, my eagles fan friend said Trotter would never sign with anyone but the eagles. I really want to rub it in his face. Like print off the story and tape it to his door or something.
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