Teicher: Johnson, Toribio and Lewis sit out Chiefs practice with injuries

[mcaj22]

Originally Posted by BlackBob

If I could post video, I would but I don't have enough posts yet.

a video of what

Brandon Siler being terrible. Because that's what he is. A special teams role player, nothing more nothing less. He can step in a pinch but if you are relying on him for an entire season to stop the run it will be like the Dick Vermeil Chiefs defense all over again.

[-King-]

So...who missed practice today?
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[philfree]

Originally Posted by -King-

So...who missed practice today?
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That's what I was wondering.

[mcaj22]

was this the video BlackBob?

Brandon Siler getting straight owned but I'll give you credit still makes the stop. Then the very next play gets absolutely blown the **** up as Ray Rice runs untouched. Yeah great tackling. It's not great tackling if the guy get's washed out of more ****ing plays than New Jersey beaches.

[Saccopoo]

Damn, two threads with pistol whipping going on...

[Black Bob]

Oldies but goodies

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

DJ is having a great year, but there is no more meaningless stat in football than "number of tackles" Especially for a middle LB. Of course these guys rack up huge numbers of tackles.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...es#post8174492

Originally Posted by BossChief

tackles are a bullshit stat anyways.

A lot of the time, they numbers are totally made up.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...es#post8092934

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

What is it with some of you and tackle stats?

Bernard Pollard led this team in tackles one year.

Making 11 tackles 5-7 yards downfield means shit.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...es#post7771886

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Tackles are your barometer?

Get the **** out of here.

Keep reading the stat sheet and act like you have a freaking clue about the way he played last year. http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...es#post7750900

Originally Posted by TheGuardian

Why do fans say this?

Great players can produce on any defensive scheme. Johnson isn't, and never has been, a great player. I laughed at the bitches who said last year that this coaching staff was stupid because they had their "best linebacker" sitting on the bench. He's got million dollar ability and a 10 cent head. The guy just isn't football smart. I hope he does put it together but I don't expect it. After this many years if he doesn't "get it" he just doesn't get it. He's never going to be what he was hyped coming out of college. One of those cases where all of the negatives about a guy coming out were spot on. Runs around blocks, isn't a great tackler, free lances too much, etc.http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/newre...eply&p=6775160

Originally Posted by Laz

yep, but he also has the lack of focus and discipline to leave his assignment which results in giving up huge plays ... especially in the running game.


gets the big play and gives up the big play


that's why they pulled him from the starting lineup and put him in there on passing downs because it still gives DJ the chance to make the big play but keeps him from screwing up our run defense.

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Hey, Mays and Williams may get blown up, but at least they get their bodies in the hole. DJ can't even find the hole to get blown up.

[Black Bob]

The Tackle

By Matt Shervington on June 23, 2011

The tackle is perhaps the most annoying statistic in football. Not because it isn’t useful but because it is so open to interpretation. For this reason, although the tackle is tracked by the NFL and its various teams, it is not considered an official statistic.

Despite the fact that the tackle isn’t official fans often cite the tackle as a premier method to interpret how good 4-3 linebackers or strong safeties are. If a player has a high tackle total he is usually regarded as a “sideline-to-sideline” player.

Unfortunately, despite the forthcoming rambling, the tackle is probably a good indicator of these player’s abilities. The primary issue, however, is that a tackle as a simple number attributes the same value to every single tackle a player makes. Attributing the same value to a tackle that prevents a first down on third and three to a tackle that comes after a 25-yard run isn’t very fair.

However, our friends at Football Outsiders have long concocted an excellent way to objectively view the tackle to determine which ones are “better” than others.

Football Outsiders have given us the metrics of “Stops”, “Defeats”, “Yards per Play” and “Stop Rate”

The “Stop” is defined as a play in which a defensive player prevents the offense from gaining 45 percent of needed yards on first down, 60 percent on second down and 100 percent of the needed yards on third and fourth down. While passes defensed, interceptions and forced fumbles are included in this metric the overall numbers still remain reminiscent of tackles.

The “Defeat” is defined as a play by a defender that prevents the offense from earning a first down on third or fourth down. Additionally a defeat can be defined as a play behind the line of scrimmage or a forced turnover.

The “Yards per Play” metric is defined as the average distance at which a defender makes a tackle, forced fumble, interception or stuff. Football Outsiders has even done the fans the convenience of separating yards per play against the run and yards per play against the pass as well as when the two are combined.

Finally, the “Stop Rate” metric delivers the percentage of tackles, stuffs, sacks, forced fumbles and interceptions that qualified as a stop out of their total plays.

Using the stop metric alongside the defeat metric is a good way to further elaborate on tackles. Together they can tell you how many of the player’s tackles weren’t simply “garbage” or “cleanup” tackles. This does not mean that all tackles that weren’t stops or defeats were meaningless but these metrics do give a better look into when and where tackles occurred when combined with the yards per play metric.

Who should be seen as the superior player?

A guy who had 100 tackles with an average yards per play of 3.5 with 66 stops and 20 defeats or a guy who had 130 tackles but an average yards per play of 6.0 with 62 stops and 8 defeats?

The tackle totals tell you that the latter player is superior but are his 30 extra tackles really worth the 2.5 extra yards he gives up per play?

Now obviously other factors must be placed into context such as the system that a guy plays in or where on the field the tackles were made despite distance. If you want to further do some research on a player and see if they are truly a “sideline-to-sideline” tackle you can also check out their player splits page on Sports Illustrated.

For all of the aforementioned metrics you can search Football Outsiders with the player’s name to find their respective player page.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/7...et-them/page/2

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by BlackBob

The Tackle
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so how many tackles did Siler have last year to convince your dumb ass he's better than the Chiefs franchise record holder?

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by BlackBob

I wonder how many cocks I can fit in my ass at one time?

[Hammock Parties]

BlackBob is getting owned hard now. We just spread eagled him over a pinball machine and raped him like Jodie Foster in The Accused.

[Brock]

LOL. Bob's anus is a size 12 right now.

[KCUnited]

Originally Posted by Brock

LOL. Bob's anus is a size 12 right now.

Like a hotdog down the Large Hadron Collider.

[Ming the Merciless]

[Saccopoo]

Black Bob isn't down for the count just yet.

Look at that sonsabitch throwing haymakers out of left field.

[Black Bob]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Black Bob isn't down for the count just yet.

Look at that sonsabitch throwing haymakers out of left field.

I haven't even started.