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Old 12-21-2012, 08:20 PM   #1
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And if he takes Joe Montana II in the third you'll look like a dumb mother****er.
And he'll look like one lucky mother****er.
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Old 12-21-2012, 08:27 PM   #2
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And if he takes Joe Montana II in the third you'll look like a dumb mother****er.
He got lucky with Montana. The wr he picked in the 2nd flamed out and finished his career in tampa after 6 seasons
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Old 12-21-2012, 07:57 PM   #3
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Old 12-21-2012, 08:09 PM   #4
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There will be no real QB prospect to try on in round 2. Geno, Wilson, Barkley, Glennon and Bray will all be gone by our pick in the 2nd round.
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Old 12-22-2012, 01:13 AM   #5
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What if Geno falls to the second round or something shocking?

Is it OK if we take him there and not #1?
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Old 12-22-2012, 01:16 AM   #6
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What if Geno falls to the second round or something shocking?

Is it OK if we take him there and not #1?
That would be an emotional rollercoaster. Not taking him at #1 would make me very angry. Then a full day until the second (while he drops) and then we end up taking him anyway. Would be crazy
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Old 12-22-2012, 01:19 AM   #7
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What if Geno falls to the second round or something shocking?

Is it OK if we take him there and not #1?
That would be really nice. It would also be nice if Green Bay traded us Aaron Rodgers for a 5th round pick. And maybe threw in Randall Cobb.

I get you are trying to keep an open mind, but...sorry. I've seen enough. The playbook for turning a desperate NFL franchise around is not complicated. When you have the #1 overall pick, you draft QB. No other position makes any sense at all, and I don't give a damn how talented the "non-QB" player is.
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Old 12-22-2012, 01:20 AM   #8
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I'm just saying, keep an open mind.

Geno might start dating a distant relative of Jovan Belcher.
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Old 12-22-2012, 01:26 AM   #9
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What if Geno falls to the second round or something shocking?

Is it OK if we take him there and not #1?
I would be cleaning the walls next to my couch for days if that happened if you know what I mean.

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I'm just saying, keep an open mind.
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Old 12-22-2012, 01:22 AM   #10
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NOpe, if the new GM doesn't get a QB in round 1 I will be beyond pissed.
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Old 12-22-2012, 08:26 AM   #11
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Here's another question for you guys.

Say we get a 3rd round pick for Carr. Would you turn and flip that and a 5 rounder to the Eagles for Maclin?
Comp picks can not be traded.

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I was a big quinn fan back in the day (at least I think i was), but all the questions that were raised about him prior to that draft obviously had some validity.

I always thought David Carr was a guy who got ****ed by circumstance. It's one thing to be Roethlisberger or Rodgers getting sacked 2000 times in your 4th or 5th season; it's another to get sacked 2000 times as a rookie. Then again, people who watched the texans a lot will tell you he straight up sucked. So maybe that was it.

As far as alex smith goes, I don't think I was ever a believer there. He had WCO qb written all over him right from the start.
David Carr was the poster boy for QBs that lock on to primary receivers.
He had/has absolutely no field vision, and couldn't make a read if it was simplified to "Dick and Jane" level.
He was sacked eleventbillion times because he makes Matt Cassel look like Joe Montana by comparison.

Alex Smith is never going to be anything more than a reliable game manager, because he can not take the top off a defense.

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All I'm saying is...

Our next GM might be a genious.

And he might see a QB he likes, figures he'll fall to the 4th round, and will wait until then.

And he might be right.

And a lot smarter than any of us.
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There are no "odds" involved if our GM is sure about the QB he's picking.

If he knows what QB he wants, and he's genius enough to get an elite one outside the 1st round, more power to him.

Just playing devil's advocate.
You don't gamble on the most important position in all of team sports by waiting until the mid rounds to address it.

The guy you like might bet taken before you expect it.

There's no way you can "know" a kid that is rated a 3rd or 4th round, or later, talent is the guy.

It's an educated gut feeling, at best.

A smart GM will take the highest rated QB at #1 overall, then take that other later in the draft if he's there.
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Old 12-22-2012, 09:00 AM   #12
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A smart GM will take the highest rated QB at #1 overall, then take that other later in the draft if he's there.
So why didn't Bill Walsh take Joe Montana with his first pick?
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So why didn't Bill Walsh take Joe Montana with his first pick?
Because he could get him in the 3rd.
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Old 12-22-2012, 08:59 AM   #14
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The thing is everyone here would be screaming bloody murder if we took Aaron Murray #1, but if we took Geno in the 2nd round, no complaints at all.

It's a double standard.
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Old 12-22-2012, 09:19 AM   #15
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The thing is everyone here would be screaming bloody murder if we took Aaron Murray #1, but if we took Geno in the 2nd round, no complaints at all.

It's a double standard.
First, the value of the QB position has increased substantially since '79.

Second, that was really a piss poor QB draft.

Joe Montana was the third QB taken in that draft.

Phil Simms and Steve Fuller were the only QBs taken ahead of him.
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