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The Beatles 38 22.09%
Elvis Presley 25 14.53%
John Cafferty & The Beaver Brown Band 102 59.30%
I'm going to make a case for someone else because I'm a moron 7 4.07%
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Old 09-15-2012, 05:10 PM   Topic Starter
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Which was most influential
The Beatles or Elvis Presley. Debergs prog rock thread started me thinking and I thought it was a fairly easy choice until I talked to a few others about it and looked up some numbers. Now it seems like a toss up... although I know what my original gut feeling was.

The Beatles...
Best selling band in history... roughly 1 billion 600 million units sold
22 #1 singles world wide
7 grammys
10 films

Elvis Presley
Best selling solo act in history... roughly 1 billion 600 million units sold
36 #1 singles
3 grammys
33 films

Of course there is plenty of other criteria. What say you though?
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Old 09-15-2012, 05:12 PM   #2
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Old 09-15-2012, 05:13 PM   #3
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Old 09-15-2012, 05:14 PM   #4
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Old 09-15-2012, 05:14 PM   #5
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As much as I love Elvis, I'd go with the Beatles.

Elvis had a singular talent for singing, dancing, and being a heart throb.

The Beatles had those as well, with talents for writing, philosophy, longevity and evolution of style in addition.

Elvis revolutionized by bringing rockabilly and gospel to the national stage, but the Beatles blew the music scene to smithereens, and seeped into the national conversation on all fronts, philosophical, political, fashion-wise, etc.
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Old 09-15-2012, 05:17 PM   #6
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As much as I love Elvis, I'd go with the Beatles.

Elvis had a singular talent for singing, dancing, and being a heart throb.

The Beatles had those as well, with talents for writing, philosophy, longevity and evolution of style in addition.
Good arguement. Elvis had top hits in rock 'n roll, country, gospel, pop and blues however and his longevity wasn't all that affected even by his death. That's something...
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Good arguement. Elvis had top hits in rock 'n roll, country, gospel, pop and blues however and his longevity wasn't all that affected even by his death. That's something...
When judging influence, I go by depth AND breadth. Elvis has ardent support in a SEGMENT of music and near universal support for that segment of music. THe Beatles has ardent support from an IMMENSE base, from punk to orchestra, from yuppies to today's 10yos. It's undiminished in both depth and breadth over 50+ years.

Outside of a handful of Elvis impersonators, you don't see a lot of people aping his fashion sense, or philosophy, or interior decorating sense, or diet. You don't see Circque du Soleil centering an act around his hits. You don't his catalog breaking Itunes wide open. I could give hundreds of other examples, but I hope my point is clear by now.
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Old 09-15-2012, 05:28 PM   #8
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When judging influence, I go by depth AND breadth. Elvis has ardent support in a SEGMENT of music and near universal support for that segment of music. THe Beatles has ardent support from an IMMENSE base, from punk to orchestra, from yuppies to today's 10yos. It's undiminished in both depth and breadth over 50+ years.

Outside of a handful of Elvis impersonators, you don't see a lot of people aping his fashion sense, or philosophy, or interior decorating sense, or diet. You don't see Circque du Soleil centering an act around his hits. You don't his catalog breaking Itunes wide open. I could give hundreds of other examples, but I hope my point is clear by now.
I wasn't argueing with you, just furthering the debate. I voted Beatles.
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I wasn't argueing with you, just furthering the debate. I voted Beatles.
I posted, not in rebuttal, but more in terms of clarification/amplification.
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As much as I love Elvis, I'd go with the Beatles.

Elvis had a singular talent for singing, dancing, and being a heart throb.

The Beatles had those as well, with talents for writing, philosophy, longevity and evolution of style in addition.

Elvis revolutionized by bringing rockabilly and gospel to the national stage, but the Beatles blew the music scene to smithereens, and seeped into the national conversation on all fronts, philosophical, political, fashion-wise, etc.
This. I don't think it's even close.
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The Beatles. Elvis' music was a straight extension of his influences. The Beatles changed the game.
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The Beatles. Elvis' music was a straight extension of his influences. The Beatles changed the game.
They did that & then some
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The Beatles. Elvis' music was a straight extension of his influences. The Beatles changed the game.
Yet The Beatles listed Elvis as a main influence.
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Yet The Beatles listed Elvis as a main influence.
Every artist has an influence.
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Every artist has an influence.
Of course. I just found it interesting that The Beatles listed Elvis as an influence in regards to Reapers arguement. I'm not disagreeing.
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