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Old 09-21-2013, 04:39 PM  
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What America Has Become

What Has America Become by Ken Huber of Tawas City


July 20, 2010

"What Has America Become" was the title of a letter to the editior written by Ken Huber of Tawas City, Michigan. It contains a series of comparisons and contrasts which causes one to think about the double-standards and conditions under which we now live here in America.

A reprint of the article has been circulating online (see photo with this article) finding its way to Fort Worth and possibly all over the nation. It was originally printed in the Iosco County News Herald on June 9, 2010, published in the Opinion column. Please read, post your thoughts, and as always feel free to subscribe for future articles and/or
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What has America become?

Editor,

Has America become the land of special interest and home of the double standard?

Lets see: if we lie to the Congress, it's a felony and if the Congress lies to us its just politics; if we dislike a black person, we're racist and if a black person dislikes whites, its their 1st Amendment right; the government spends millions to rehabilitate criminals and they do almost nothing for the victims; in public schools you can teach that homosexuality is OK, but you better not use the word God in the process; you can kill an unborn child, but it is wrong to execute a mass murderer; we don't burn books in America, we now rewrite them; we got rid of communist and socialist threats by renaming them progressive; we are unable to close our border with Mexico, but have no problem protecting the 38th parallel in Korea; if you protest against President Obama's policies you're a terrorist, but if you burned an American flag or George Bush in effigy it was your 1st Amendment right.

You can have pornography on TV or the internet, but you better not put a nativity scene in a public park during Christmas; we have eliminated all criminals in America, they are now called sick people; we can use a human fetus for medical research, but it is wrong to use an animal.

We take money from those who work hard for it and give it to those who don't want to work; we all support the Constitution, but only when it supports our political ideology; we still have freedom of speech, but only if we are being politically correct; parenting has been replaced with Ritalin and video games; the land of opportunity is now the land of hand outs; the similarity between Hurricane Katrina and the gulf oil spill is that neither president did anything to help.

And how do we handle a major crisis today? The government appoints a committee to determine who's at fault, then threatens them, passes a law, raises our taxes; tells us the problem is solved so they can get back to their reelection campaign.

What has happened to the land of the free and home of the brave?

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Old 09-23-2013, 10:20 AM   #61
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keep proving the point, my favorite fanBOI.
It's not even debatable that the baby boomers have ****ed this country up. Trying to pass blame down from your generation to ours is ridiculous. Try again dress up suzie.
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Old 09-23-2013, 10:29 AM   #63
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Certainly they understand as well that the lack of full time jobs in may areas of employment are a result of their willingness to share opportunity with illegals and to embrace them in our country fully.

No, we understand lack of well paying employment as a fault of the boomers screwing over the country by outsourcing any job they could for short term profit and breaking U.S. law by hiring illegals, thus creating the demand for them, all in the name of profit, again screwing over the rest of the country for their own personal pocket book.
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Old 09-23-2013, 11:36 AM   #64
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No, we understand lack of well paying employment as a fault of the boomers screwing over the country by outsourcing any job they could for short term profit and breaking U.S. law by hiring illegals, thus creating the demand for them, all in the name of profit, again screwing over the rest of the country for their own personal pocket book.
Now you completely lost me. I don't know how that has aanything to do with his discussion. The policy yyou discussed above also dramatically reduces costs, which leads to lower prices and more spending power for businesses. Corporations often abuse disposable income, but that doesn't make outsourcing a bad thing.
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Old 09-23-2013, 11:39 AM   #65
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No, we understand lack of well paying employment as a fault of the boomers screwing over the country by outsourcing any job they could for short term profit and breaking U.S. law by hiring illegals, thus creating the demand for them, all in the name of profit, again screwing over the rest of the country for their own personal pocket book.
Gawd! You are devoid of logic, facts and economic knowledge. It really shows when you use on sweeping generalities that are also false. The "Boomers" inherited what their parents generation supported by FDR when he pushed through his original welfare state bills. However, the "Boomers" did not outsource American jobs--that was a bi-partisan deal including Carter who was up on that stage the day the free-trade pact was passed. As I recall, many so-called " Boomers" were opposed and still are.

Political elites in both parties pushed through these pacts. The American people had little to do with it, on both the left or right, or whether Gen X, Y or Boomer. In fact all generations were lied to, because these aren't even real free-trade pacts--they're mercantilist arrangements that benefit politically connected corporations.

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Now you completely lost me. I don't know how that has aanything to do with his discussion. The policy yyou discussed above also dramatically reduces costs, which leads to lower prices and more spending power for businesses. Corporations often abuse disposable income, but that doesn't make outsourcing a bad thing.
Not necessarily! It forces businesses out of the country that even wanted to remain in America because the politically connected corporations drove this pressure to outsource downwards. It was not a move by markets, but by govt.

Yes, lower costs do result when the international division of labor is involved, but it happens slower and from the players inside America being able to negotiate their wages and what they pay for things in a true free-market. It allows the players to adapt and happens more slowly including replacement jobs. Wages are not the only indicator of rising wealth if things are cheaper, but you can't ignore the role of the Fed Reserve weakening our dollar as the main reason for lowering standards of living and purchasing power which is ignored. Ross Perot was right though, these alleged free-trade pacts just created a giant sucking sound as jobs left rapidly. And it's a ne0-mercantilist state-sponsored sucking sound. Corporate socialism for losses and capitalism for profits.
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Old 09-23-2013, 11:49 AM   #67
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my generation didn't elect Obama...at least that is what the stats say.
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Yea, because the middle class hasn't been in decline since the beginning of the 80's or anything

I could carry on, but boomers have rode this country into the ground and are now trying to skull**** the corpse
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It's not even debatable that the baby boomers have ****ed this country up. Trying to pass blame down from your generation to ours is ridiculous. Try again dress up suzie.
The President is my age, dipshit...PLEASE save our country with your wonderful work ethic and STILL MAD AT MY DADDY attitude...


oh, and please show me where I tried to pass blame, queer eye fanBOI
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Boomers only outsourced jobs that kids would someday get and illegals only got jobs kids would someday get. It wasnt easy to do that but loneiguana figured it out. Illegals are taking jobs that new college and HS grads would have gotten, no one is retiring and boomers are keeping their jobs till death as part of the **** the young folk program instituted by Nixon.

Young folks have been fooled into supporting Obama and the left only to realize their dream jobs are being filled by Mexicans , Cubans , central Americans, and middle eastern refugees.

No 65 plus boomers are retiring so young folk cant get those jobs.

And the boomers who have huge 401k balances are not spending it so young people cant get to the cash.
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Not necessarily! It forces businesses out of the country that even wanted to remain in America because the politically connected corporations drove this pressure to outsource downwards. It was not a move by markets, but by govt.

Yes, lower costs do result when the international division of labor is involved, but it happens slower and from the players inside America being able to negotiate their wages and what they pay for things in a true free-market. It allows the players to adapt and happens more slowly including replacement jobs. Wages are not the only indicator of rising wealth if things are cheaper, but you can't ignore the role of the Fed Reserve weakening our dollar as the main reason for lowering standards of living and purchasing power which is ignored. Ross Perot was right though, these alleged free-trade pacts just created a giant sucking sound as jobs left rapidly. And it's a ne0-mercantilist state-sponsored sucking sound. Corporate socialism for losses and capitalism for profits.
Fair point.

But to the original point... It sounds like in your post, you would agree that the blanket statement that outsourcing destroys jobs is a big exaggeration. There are a lot of forms of healthy outsourcing.

So I think the point you're making is about terrible policy decisions, not outsourcing itself. Bad outsourcing is a product of those terrible policy decisions.
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Boomers only outsourced jobs that kids would someday get and illegals only got jobs kids would someday get. It wasnt easy to do that but loneiguana figured it out. Illegals are taking jobs that new college and HS grads would have gotten, no one is retiring and boomers are keeping their jobs till death as part of the **** the young folk program instituted by Nixon.

Young folks have been fooled into supporting Obama and the left only to realize their dream jobs are being filled by Mexicans , Cubans , central Americans, and middle eastern refugees.

No 65 plus boomers are retiring so young folk cant get those jobs.

And the boomers who have huge 401k balances are not spending it so young people cant get to the cash.
But that's not a reflection that the future is doomed. Young people have a history of leaning liberal, then growing conservative as they get older.
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But that's not a reflection that the future is doomed. Young people have a history of leaning liberal, then growing conservative as they get older.
Oh I concur. And that would be my greatest wish. I fear however they wont wake up in time.

On the otherhand, I would bet the 10somethings will be more conservative than their older cousins and brothers and sisters as they see them struggle in this Obama Economy. This thing is bad and headed worse. Once the Fed stops feeding cash watch this baby burp on everybody. Jobs wont come back easily with the massive increases in energy costs we can anticipate. And the costs of social programs and Obama regulations will haunt us for years and stifle economic growth. By the time this thing turns the corner, the 30 somethings will be 60somethings and broke on their ass and will be blaming the 90 somethings still for the debt they had from borrowing the max for 5 years to get a degree in Philosophy or Social Work.
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Boomers only outsourced jobs that kids would someday get and illegals only got jobs kids would someday get. It wasnt easy to do that but loneiguana figured it out. Illegals are taking jobs that new college and HS grads would have gotten, no one is retiring and boomers are keeping their jobs till death as part of the **** the young folk program instituted by Nixon.

Young folks have been fooled into supporting Obama and the left only to realize their dream jobs are being filled by Mexicans , Cubans , central Americans, and middle eastern refugees.

No 65 plus boomers are retiring so young folk cant get those jobs.

And the boomers who have huge 401k balances are not spending it so young people cant get to the cash.
You keep talking about them taking jobs... but never once ask who is giving them the jobs... Which part of that equation is more important?
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