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Old 09-26-2013, 06:07 AM  
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Chiefs' offense: "one of the worst in the league, by nearly every measure"

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2013/9...chiefs-offense

some numbers to chew on from arrowhead pride

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The Chiefs are actually 12th in the league in PPG, at 23.7. But if you take away the 14 points the defense is directly responsible for, that number drops to 19 PPG, which would be tied for 23rd - with the Raiders. The Chiefs are relying on the defense to score points, which isn't good. Defensive scoring is random and shouldn't be part of the game plan. They didn't need Tamba Hali's pick-6 to beat the Jaguars, but they did need Eric Berry's against the Eagles.

They also are just not moving the ball; their 333 yds/gm is 21st in the league and their 4.9 yds/play ranks 25th. "Well Kyle," you may ask, " if the Chiefs offense is so bad, how are they undefeated this year?" That's an excellent question, thank you for asking. The answer is that the defense and special teams are much, much better than we thought.
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The problem the Chiefs are having is getting to the Red Zone in the first place. They're 30th in yards per drive, with only Tampa Bay and Jacksonville behind them, and Cleveland directly in front of them (not good company to be in). This is a really, really bad offense. But here's the real kicker: the Chiefs' offense has the best starting field position in the NFL this year, and still can't score.
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The Chiefs average 17 yards per drive better field position than their opponents (ok, ok, 16.95), the best mark in the NFL (2nd table). Only two other teams average more than 10 yards better starting field position than their opponents (New England and Chicago). The Chiefs' average starting line of scrimmage (LOS) is their own 36.97 yard line (best in the NFL), while their opponents average starting LOS is their own 20.02 yard line (also best in the NFL). What all of that means is the Chiefs's offense is handed consistently great starting field position and can't do anything with it, then they let the special teams pin opponents deep in their own territory. The defense bails out the offense by not letting opponents move the ball, giving the offense the ball back with great starting field position. Lather, rinse, repeat.
There's a nice breakdown of our defense against philly over there as well:
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/9/2...p-kelly-eagles

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I have to reiterate and emphasize just how much the Chiefs played man to man -- like a ton of it. And they have the secondary to handle it, unlike most teams in the NFL. Specifically, they matched up Sean Smith on Cooper a lot on the outside. If this had been a prize fight, Cooper's corner would have thrown in the towel somewhere around the middle of the second quarter. Smith owned him right up until the end of the game when he started cramping up. Cooper just couldn't shake him, especially on those aforementioned deep routes Kelly had him running all game.

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Old 09-29-2013, 09:03 PM   #1516
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Are you talking about his career or his career as a chief?
im definitely thinking he means as a chief. And I haven't seen that Alex at all with the Chiefs. Hes not thinking nearly as much. Every week he seems to be becoming more sure of himself.

its quite impressive.

I don't care what anyone says. He is a top 10 qb RIGHT NOW. may not be in a month from now, but as of today, you would have a hard time finding 10 that played the first four games better than he did as a whole.


Oh, and also, off the top of my head. After Denvers first game against the Ravens. Clay said that Alex Smith probably wouldn't throw 7 tds in all of September.

He threw 7 tds in September!!!

Not gloating, just found it funny.
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Old 09-29-2013, 09:04 PM   #1517
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**** off prick. Don't even comment if you haven"t dvr'd it and watched the game.

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Old 09-29-2013, 09:10 PM   #1518
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**** you, greaseball.
No, **** YOU, ****ball.

Not only are you a clueless, nut-hugging piece of garbage, you don't even watch the games.

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Old 09-29-2013, 09:12 PM   #1519
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No, **** YOU, ****ball.

Not only are you a clueless, nut-hugging piece of garbage, you don't even watch the games.

Jizz mopper needed in Booth Nine.
I watch the games WHEN I'M NOT WORKING. Hello? English?
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Old 09-29-2013, 09:14 PM   #1520
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I watch the games WHEN I'M NOT WORKING. Hello? English?
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Old 09-29-2013, 09:18 PM   #1521
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Why? Is your girlfriend hanging out in there again?
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Old 09-29-2013, 09:21 PM   #1522
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Old 09-29-2013, 09:22 PM   #1523
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Why? Is your girlfriend hanging out in there again?
You are the consummate mouth breathing nay saying moron. **** off douche bag.
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Old 09-29-2013, 09:25 PM   #1524
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Why? Is your girlfriend hanging out in there again?
You're a completely clueless moron. Thanks again for confirming it.
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Old 09-29-2013, 10:35 PM   #1525
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Got exactly what I was looking for in the second half.

Still offensive line issues, but some improvement there (hmmm - "concussion like symptoms" for Fisher?). Too many penalties.

Alex Smith kept doing what he'd been doing, running the ball to sustain some drives, but he finally started making some throws downfield into tighter windows, giving the receivers chances to make plays. One of the picks was a fluke on a poor throw to Charles (amazing how that one bounced for NYG), really the only overtly bad play I can remember. Otherwise he was doing what we need him to do. Steady play, but taking some chances when they're there. That second half performance was big. For the whole O.

And the defense proves what we already knew: we don't have to play afraid on offense; they're good enough to hold teams after turnovers...
Yep. I posted the same in another thread.

Not sure what switch Alex flipped at halftime, but he was a completely different QB, and the offense looked great because of it.
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Old 09-29-2013, 10:38 PM   #1526
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The offense looked pretty good this week.
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Old 09-29-2013, 10:41 PM   #1527
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Yep. I posted the same in another thread.

Not sure what switch Alex flipped at halftime, but he was a completely different QB, and the offense looked great because of it.
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Old 09-29-2013, 10:47 PM   #1528
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Not sure what switch Alex flipped at halftime, but he was a completely different QB, and the offense looked great because of it.
Maybe it was because he had more confidence in Donald Stephenson than Eric Fisher
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Old 09-29-2013, 10:59 PM   #1529
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Maybe it was because he had more confidence in Donald Stephenson than Eric Fisher
I know I would too. I was in section 305, and I can see #72 was getting abused big time.

Fisher could be a good player, but he's either not quite ready, overwhelmed, or playing hurt. The footwork is there, that's not much of a issue, it's just seems like he has a upper body issue.
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Old 09-29-2013, 11:00 PM   #1530
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Constant improvement like this from Smith and we just may be a contender. Denver games are going to be sick
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