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Old 03-25-2013, 09:31 AM  
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Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug

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First reports from a footage leak.

http://the-hobbit-movie.com/2013/03/...of-the-dragon/

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The first footage of The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug has been revealed at yesterday’s live internet broadcast, although few firm conclusions can be drawn. The subject is certainly sensitive to Warner Bros. with several videos around the web having been withdrawn by Monday morning due to breaches of the Terms & Conditions attached to the production.

It’s OK to tell what happened though and we can report that the footage ends thus, with Thorin declaring:

“We are the dwarves of Erebor. We have come to reclaim our homeland.”

No surprise there then. The trailer finishes on some sound effects that are unmistakably like a dragon, but of course there was no sign of Smaug himself anywhere. I do not think anyone actually expected that, so what did become clearer?

Alongside some moody shots of Gandalf and Radagast in a mausoleum of a cavern, we begin to learn more about Benedict Cumberbatch’s other character in the movie, at least by implication we do anyway, with Gandalf asking why the sword Glamdring, “got out into the world,” only to discover that there’s much more to it than meets the eye, all of which is meant to tie into the Necromancer storyline.

Peter Jackson appeared very aware of the potential problems with the middle film of any trilogy, responding to one fan’s question with:

“It is complicated to do a middle film, but the advantage is … we have multiple story lines … and we can start following multiple characters.”

Sounds enticing, as making a middle film into anything but a filler with untied endings and ragged beginnings can be a problem. Perhaps we will see a few complete stories within the overall arc; who knows? It is now almost legendary that enough footage has been shot to complete several movies.

More will undoubtedly be drip fed us over the coming months and as Jackson revealed this video release ought to be considered first in a series of blogs about the film. First mystery up, doubtless awaiting further examination later is Gandalf saying:

“These tombs were opened from the inside.”

That’s a little mystery that Gandalf is exploring in The Desolation of Smaug, according to Peter Jackson at the event. He also said that Mirkwood is the scariest land they’ll explore in the movie and described Thranduil’s kingdom using concept art. Cinemablend reported that:

“This looked like that same creepy forest but with some castle-like structure in there. The realm itself is underground, but there’s light filtering in– We want it to be grand, like a cathedral. But this is not Rivendell. This is not the friendly land of elves that we’re used to in these movies. Jed recalls his time spent as a dwarf, held prisoner in Thranduil’s kingdom.”

The approach used in this teaser follows the pattern of previous production video blogs, so you will have recognised the strategy by now no doubt. It looks like we can anticipate a steady ramping up of the pressure from now onwards until the finished trailer is put on general release.
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Old 10-01-2013, 11:24 AM   #91
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Old 10-01-2013, 11:27 AM   #92
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Old 10-01-2013, 12:54 PM   #94
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Finally got around to watching the first one. I enjoyed it.

I still think it's shitty milking this into three movies, but what the hell. I'm certainly not going to buy anything until the full set of expanded releases come out, but I might check out the next one in the theater.
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And is that Cumberbatch voicing Smaug?
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Finally got around to watching the first one. I enjoyed it.

I still think it's shitty milking this into three movies, but what the hell. I'm certainly not going to buy anything until the full set of expanded releases come out, but I might check out the next one in the theater.
I originally disliked the making a trilogy from the single work of the Hobbit. Then I thought, "WTF? Who cares, I get to spend 6 more hours inside Middle Earth instead of just 2 more." There's also the fact that they've moved well beyond the material found in the Hobbit for the movies as well. If they'd try to just stretch the material in the Hobbit and tell it in a narrative that strictly imitates the novel into 3 movies, then I'd have been annoyed. After I saw it, though, I was cool with it.
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And is that Cumberbatch voicing Smaug?

Yes.
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I originally disliked the making a trilogy from the single work of the Hobbit. Then I thought, "WTF? Who cares, I get to spend 6 more hours inside Middle Earth instead of just 2 more." There's also the fact that they've moved well beyond the material found in the Hobbit for the movies as well. If they'd try to just stretch the material in the Hobbit and tell it in a narrative that strictly imitates the novel into 3 movies, then I'd have been annoyed. After I saw it, though, I was cool with it.

Agreed, and they're not just making stuff up from nowhere. While some of the stuff is off-camera (re: the "Necromancer") we know it does happen.

This is Tolkien's story AS told by Jackson. If you're a purist, then I'm sure you will hate it, in which case don't go. For the rest of us, I think Jackson has earned our trust that he will do no harm, and will entertain us greatly with his vision of the story.
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Agreed, and they're not just making stuff up from nowhere. While some of the stuff is off-camera (re: the "Necromancer") we know it does happen.

This is Tolkien's story AS told by Jackson. If you're a purist, then I'm sure you will hate it, in which case don't go. For the rest of us, I think Jackson has earned our trust that he will do no harm, and will entertain us greatly with his vision of the story.
Yup. I'm a bit of a "purist" but that hasn't kept me from enjoying the films immensely.

Some aspects of the first Hobbit movie were a bit over the top and childish for me but looking back it certainly makes sense considering the Hobbit was far more a childrens book. I actually think the entire 6 movie series will work on many levels once the 2 remaining Hobbit films are finished.

The only MAJOR thing I would change about all of it (so far) is I'd put Tom Bombadil back in the Fellowship.
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I didn't like the first one all that much, it seemed overlong and meandering and for much of the runtime pointless, but that doesn't keep me from looking forward to part 2.
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Looks like more CGI bullshit where characters defy the laws of gravity and never get one cut or scrape.
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Looks like more CGI bullshit where characters defy the laws of gravity and never get one cut or scrape.
Yeah, they definitely went over the top with the last one at times. That last scene with the trees dangling over the cliff was ridiculous. They should have at least greased one of them.
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Yeah, they definitely went over the top with the last one at times. That last scene with the trees dangling over the cliff was ridiculous. They should have at least greased one of them.
I like Jackson, but yes, he goes too far over the top of believability with his action scenes at times.
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