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Old 03-25-2013, 10:31 AM  
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Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug

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First reports from a footage leak.

http://the-hobbit-movie.com/2013/03/...of-the-dragon/

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The first footage of The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug has been revealed at yesterday’s live internet broadcast, although few firm conclusions can be drawn. The subject is certainly sensitive to Warner Bros. with several videos around the web having been withdrawn by Monday morning due to breaches of the Terms & Conditions attached to the production.

It’s OK to tell what happened though and we can report that the footage ends thus, with Thorin declaring:

“We are the dwarves of Erebor. We have come to reclaim our homeland.”

No surprise there then. The trailer finishes on some sound effects that are unmistakably like a dragon, but of course there was no sign of Smaug himself anywhere. I do not think anyone actually expected that, so what did become clearer?

Alongside some moody shots of Gandalf and Radagast in a mausoleum of a cavern, we begin to learn more about Benedict Cumberbatch’s other character in the movie, at least by implication we do anyway, with Gandalf asking why the sword Glamdring, “got out into the world,” only to discover that there’s much more to it than meets the eye, all of which is meant to tie into the Necromancer storyline.

Peter Jackson appeared very aware of the potential problems with the middle film of any trilogy, responding to one fan’s question with:

“It is complicated to do a middle film, but the advantage is … we have multiple story lines … and we can start following multiple characters.”

Sounds enticing, as making a middle film into anything but a filler with untied endings and ragged beginnings can be a problem. Perhaps we will see a few complete stories within the overall arc; who knows? It is now almost legendary that enough footage has been shot to complete several movies.

More will undoubtedly be drip fed us over the coming months and as Jackson revealed this video release ought to be considered first in a series of blogs about the film. First mystery up, doubtless awaiting further examination later is Gandalf saying:

“These tombs were opened from the inside.”

That’s a little mystery that Gandalf is exploring in The Desolation of Smaug, according to Peter Jackson at the event. He also said that Mirkwood is the scariest land they’ll explore in the movie and described Thranduil’s kingdom using concept art. Cinemablend reported that:

“This looked like that same creepy forest but with some castle-like structure in there. The realm itself is underground, but there’s light filtering in– We want it to be grand, like a cathedral. But this is not Rivendell. This is not the friendly land of elves that we’re used to in these movies. Jed recalls his time spent as a dwarf, held prisoner in Thranduil’s kingdom.”

The approach used in this teaser follows the pattern of previous production video blogs, so you will have recognised the strategy by now no doubt. It looks like we can anticipate a steady ramping up of the pressure from now onwards until the finished trailer is put on general release.
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Old 10-03-2013, 01:47 PM   #106
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Willing suspension of disbelief will only take you so far...

Agreed -- that part annoys me too. Much more than Legolas being in the movie...
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Old 10-03-2013, 01:51 PM   #107
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Yup. I'm a bit of a "purist" but that hasn't kept me from enjoying the films immensely.

Some aspects of the first Hobbit movie were a bit over the top and childish for me but looking back it certainly makes sense considering the Hobbit was far more a childrens book. I actually think the entire 6 movie series will work on many levels once the 2 remaining Hobbit films are finished.

The only MAJOR thing I would change about all of it (so far) is I'd put Tom Bombadil back in the Fellowship.

I'd gladly get rid of Rhosgobel rabbits and some of the other childish things, but he didn't Jar Jar Binks the movie, so on balance i'm ok with it.


I have a friend who really pretty PO'ed about no Tom Bombadil, but to non-readers, it would make no sense and it would've taken too long ot include in the movies, so I understand.

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Legolas and azog do not belong in this movie.

Actually, it's pretty likely Legolas would've been in Thranduil's throne room when he first met the dwarves, etc., though he's not named specifically or anything.

But his being a key character obviously is "out of place", but so what?

As for Azog -- There are orcs involved. They decided to take one and make him front and center, though according to canon he was already dead by this point. Meh, I can't really get fussed about it.
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I'd gladly get rid of Rhosgobel rabbits and some of the other childish things, but he didn't Jar Jar Binks the movie, so on balance i'm ok with it.


I have a friend who really pretty PO'ed about no Tom Bombadil, but to non-readers, it would make no sense and it would've taken too long ot include in the movies, so I understand.

I would have loved for them to have had tom Bombadil in, but I completely understand why it wasn't. Given how much PJ got into the LOTR trilogy, I am not sure anyone could ask for anything more.

The Hobbit has had more changes, but PJ is mixing in some other Tolkien things that will never see the screen otherwise. I trust his judgement and look forward to the next two films.
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Old 10-03-2013, 02:29 PM   #110
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It's Thorin. FFS, why can't people spell his name right?!?!
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I would have loved for them to have had tom Bombadil in, but I completely understand why it wasn't. Given how much PJ got into the LOTR trilogy, I am not sure anyone could ask for anything more.

The Hobbit has had more changes, but PJ is mixing in some other Tolkien things that will never see the screen otherwise. I trust his judgement and look forward to the next two films.
I was glad that they left Tom out, lol. I think I understood why his character was in the book, but just felt unneeded.
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S-K-Y-L-E-R!


Sorry, couldn't help it.
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Sorry, couldn't help it.


It's not funny because you're piling on top of my joke...
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It's not funny because you're piling on top of my joke...
Odd, I thought I was giving you credit for your cross-thread humor, not piling on. Don't worry, shan't happen again.
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Odd, I thought I was giving you credit for your cross-thread humor, not piling on. Don't worry, shan't happen again.
Then I misread. Sorry.
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