Home Mail MemberMap Chat (0) Wallpapers
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > The Lounge > Washington DC & Vatican City

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-06-2013, 11:07 AM  
banyon banyon is offline
Supporter
 
banyon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Dodge City, Kansas
Casino cash: $15503
John Kerry ceding away US sovereignty to global corporations

While the right hand is distracting us with the shiny object of government shutdown, here's what the left hand is doing:

As the federal government shutdown continues, Secretary of State John Kerry heads to Asia for secret talks on a sweeping new trade deal, the Trans-Pacific Partnership. The TPP is often referred to by critics as "NAFTA on steroids," and would establish a free trade zone that would stretch from Vietnam to Chile, encompassing 800 million people — about a third of world trade and nearly 40 percent of the global economy. While the text of the treaty has been largely negotiated behind closed doors and, until June, kept secret from Congress, more than 600 corporate advisers reportedly have access to the measure, including employees of Halliburton and Monsanto. "This is not mainly about trade," says Lori Wallach, director of Public Citizen’s Global Trade Watch. "It is a corporate Trojan horse. The agreement has 29 chapters, and only five of them have to do with trade. The other 24 chapters either handcuff our domestic governments, limiting food safety, environmental standards, financial regulation, energy and climate policy, or establishing new powers for corporations."

TRANSCRIPT

This is a rush transcript. Copy may not be in its final form.

JUAN GONZÁLEZ: President Obama announced this week that the U.S. government shutdown would delay his upcoming four-country trip to Asia, but that negotiations on a controversial new trade agreement he hopes to sign by the end of the year will continue to move forward. Obama called the Philippines president Tuesday night to say he would miss his visit, and a spokesperson shared the news with reporters Thursday.

RICKY CARANDANG: Secretary Kerry ... he will go in place of President Obama. President Obama personally called President Aquino to tell him—to explain to him why he could not make the visit.
JUAN GONZÁLEZ: John Kerry will attend Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation meetings next week in Indonesia, where he’ll push for the completion of a sweeping new trade deal called the Trans-Pacific Partnership, the largest international trade deal since the creation of the World Trade Organization in 1995. The administration hopes to pass the measure through Congress by the end of the year using its Fast Track authority to limit lawmakers to an up-or-down vote.

AMY GOODMAN: The TPP is often referred to by critics as "NAFTA on steroids" and would establishing a free trade zone that would stretch from Vietnam to Chile, encompass 800 million people—about a third of world trade and nearly 40 percent of the global economy. While the text of the treaty has been largely negotiated behind closed doors, more than 600 corporate advisers reportedly have access to the measure, including employees of Halliburton and Monsanto.

http://www.democracynow.org/2013/10/...e_obama_pushes

Posts: 33,774
banyon is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.banyon is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.banyon is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.banyon is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.banyon is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.banyon is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.banyon is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.banyon is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.banyon is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.banyon is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.banyon is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2013, 06:44 AM   #16
BucEyedPea BucEyedPea is offline
BucPatriot
 
BucEyedPea's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: None of your business
Casino cash: $49686
Oh, looking sheepishly, I agree with banyon here.
__________________
Bill Belichick learned to film signals of opponents from the former Chiefs, and Charger's coach Schottenheimer. Others like Edwards, Johnson and Cowher did too. They learned from the CHEATS and CHEATERS who still couldn't win.
Posts: 64,253
BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2013, 07:23 AM   #17
Chiefshrink Chiefshrink is offline
MVP
 
Chiefshrink's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: donkey land
Casino cash: $14886
Quote:
Originally Posted by scott free View Post
Banyon has been doing that a lot lately, and i extend my kudos as well.
My God how i've come to hate this administration.
What did Churchill say years ago ?? "If you are not a liberal in your 20's you have no heart and if you are not a conservative by the time you are in your 40's you have no brain".

I have seen many in this forum who once prided themselves as liberals now begin to see a little bit of the light that only grows over time. However, denial is much easier to break through with Barry in office as he prides himself with a huge ray of the Marxist sun shining all over him with a "F you" smile to "We The People" every day.

A person's vote is a very intimate process for them and most don't want to admit they f'd up voting for the wrong person. But many are starting to come around but unfortunately it will be too late by the time the country wakes up because like our FFs stated you will never get those liberties and freedoms back you chose to surrender
Posts: 13,006
Chiefshrink threw an interception on a screen pass.Chiefshrink threw an interception on a screen pass.Chiefshrink threw an interception on a screen pass.Chiefshrink threw an interception on a screen pass.Chiefshrink threw an interception on a screen pass.Chiefshrink threw an interception on a screen pass.Chiefshrink threw an interception on a screen pass.Chiefshrink threw an interception on a screen pass.Chiefshrink threw an interception on a screen pass.Chiefshrink threw an interception on a screen pass.Chiefshrink threw an interception on a screen pass.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2013, 07:36 AM   #18
KILLER_CLOWN KILLER_CLOWN is offline
Be HEALED!!!!!!!
 
KILLER_CLOWN's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Pale(Chloros) ville
Casino cash: $23281
Well if it's good enough for Kerry, it's obviously good enough for me.
__________________
"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father ... And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."

"If the people let government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny." - Thomas Jefferson
Posts: 26,598
KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2013, 07:48 AM   #19
KC native KC native is offline
Le@der of Meehecans
 
KC native's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Fort Worth, TX
Casino cash: $36332
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chiefshrink View Post
What did Churchill say years ago ?? "If you are not a liberal in your 20's you have no heart and if you are not a conservative by the time you are in your 40's you have no brain".

I have seen many in this forum who once prided themselves as liberals now begin to see a little bit of the light that only grows over time. However, denial is much easier to break through with Barry in office as he prides himself with a huge ray of the Marxist sun shining all over him with a "F you" smile to "We The People" every day.

A person's vote is a very intimate process for them and most don't want to admit they f'd up voting for the wrong person. But many are starting to come around but unfortunately it will be too late by the time the country wakes up because like our FFs stated you will never get those liberties and freedoms back you chose to surrender
Churchill never said that.
__________________
The diameter of your knowledge is the circumference of your actions. Ras Kass

Quote:
Originally Posted by Iowanian View Post
I'm just a little pussy from Iowa
Posts: 21,841
KC native 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.KC native 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.KC native 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.KC native 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.KC native 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.KC native 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.KC native 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.KC native 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.KC native 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.KC native 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.KC native 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2013, 08:12 AM   #20
Fish Fish is online now
Missing Dick Curl
 
Fish's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2005
Casino cash: $20480
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chiefshrink View Post
What did Churchill say years ago ?? "If you are not a liberal in your 20's you have no heart and if you are not a conservative by the time you are in your 40's you have no brain".

I have seen many in this forum who once prided themselves as liberals now begin to see a little bit of the light that only grows over time. However, denial is much easier to break through with Barry in office as he prides himself with a huge ray of the Marxist sun shining all over him with a "F you" smile to "We The People" every day.

A person's vote is a very intimate process for them and most don't want to admit they f'd up voting for the wrong person. But many are starting to come around but unfortunately it will be too late by the time the country wakes up because like our FFs stated you will never get those liberties and freedoms back you chose to surrender
__________________
Posts: 27,291
Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2013, 08:43 AM   #21
Dallas Chief Dallas Chief is offline
Supporter
 
Dallas Chief's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Jupiter, FL.
Casino cash: $13818
Quote:
Originally Posted by banyon View Post
It is. It's hard to believe that people don't place the real outrage where it belongs.

If people really understood what a threat this is to our way of life, then there would be massive protests everywhere like other countries involved.

And the secrecy...why so much?

I'm with Reaper right now...in a state of disbelief. The secrecy part is what is baffling to me.
Posts: 2,687
Dallas Chief wants to die in a aids tree fire.Dallas Chief wants to die in a aids tree fire.Dallas Chief wants to die in a aids tree fire.Dallas Chief wants to die in a aids tree fire.Dallas Chief wants to die in a aids tree fire.Dallas Chief wants to die in a aids tree fire.Dallas Chief wants to die in a aids tree fire.Dallas Chief wants to die in a aids tree fire.Dallas Chief wants to die in a aids tree fire.Dallas Chief wants to die in a aids tree fire.Dallas Chief wants to die in a aids tree fire.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2013, 09:11 AM   #22
KILLER_CLOWN KILLER_CLOWN is offline
Be HEALED!!!!!!!
 
KILLER_CLOWN's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Pale(Chloros) ville
Casino cash: $23281
We have to try it to see if we like it. / Congress
__________________
"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father ... And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."

"If the people let government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny." - Thomas Jefferson
Posts: 26,598
KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2014, 07:38 AM   #23
jiveturkey jiveturkey is offline
Captain Kick Ass
 
jiveturkey's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Kansas
Casino cash: $12015
The TPP pops up on my social media feeds pretty much ever day now and I'm really surprised that it's not being discussed here. Is it because both sides hate it and agreement is hard to understand?
Posts: 5,619
jiveturkey would the whole thing.jiveturkey would the whole thing.jiveturkey would the whole thing.jiveturkey would the whole thing.jiveturkey would the whole thing.jiveturkey would the whole thing.jiveturkey would the whole thing.jiveturkey would the whole thing.jiveturkey would the whole thing.jiveturkey would the whole thing.jiveturkey would the whole thing.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2014, 07:53 AM   #24
HonestChieffan HonestChieffan is offline
Country Santa Year Around
 
HonestChieffan's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: In the Country in MO
Casino cash: $28610
TPP will sail through when someone pushes the right button for Harry. Lots of teeth bashing by lots of groups over this thing but you done see a lot of mainstream coverage of it and not a lot of discussion of pros and cons in anything other than the sky is falling sites. I suspect it is due to not knowing what these assholes are up to, Kerry is a nitwit and Id assume he has no idea even if they tell him, and the media is to focused on stuff like cars on the roads in Atlanta
__________________
Frazod to KC Nitwit..."Hey, I saw a picture of some dumpy bitch with a horrible ****tarded giant back tattoo and couldn't help but think of you." Simple, Pure, Perfect. 7/31/2013

Dave Lane: "I have donated more money to people in my life as an atheist that most churches ever will."

Come home to Jesus Dave. Come home.
Posts: 31,447
HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2014, 08:19 AM   #25
Dave Lane Dave Lane is offline
Space Cadet and Aczabel
 
Dave Lane's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Kansas City, Mo, USA
Casino cash: $32145
VARSITY
Quote:
Originally Posted by banyon View Post
It is. It's hard to believe that people don't place the real outrage where it belongs.

If people really understood what a threat this is to our way of life, then there would be massive protests everywhere like other countries involved.

And the secrecy...why so much?
Ok I don't understand. Where is the issue as you see it? How are we ceding our sovereignty?
__________________
blaise Chiefsplanet's biggest bigot since 2007
Posts: 27,601
Dave Lane is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dave Lane is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dave Lane is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dave Lane is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dave Lane is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dave Lane is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dave Lane is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dave Lane is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dave Lane is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dave Lane is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dave Lane is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2014, 08:35 AM   #26
Garcia Bronco Garcia Bronco is offline
No Keys, No Problem
 

Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Denver
Casino cash: $11495
Import tariffs are what keep your local businesses strong.
Posts: 22,661
Garcia Bronco wants to die in a aids tree fire.Garcia Bronco wants to die in a aids tree fire.Garcia Bronco wants to die in a aids tree fire.Garcia Bronco wants to die in a aids tree fire.Garcia Bronco wants to die in a aids tree fire.Garcia Bronco wants to die in a aids tree fire.Garcia Bronco wants to die in a aids tree fire.Garcia Bronco wants to die in a aids tree fire.Garcia Bronco wants to die in a aids tree fire.Garcia Bronco wants to die in a aids tree fire.Garcia Bronco wants to die in a aids tree fire.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2014, 08:59 AM   #27
BucEyedPea BucEyedPea is offline
BucPatriot
 
BucEyedPea's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: None of your business
Casino cash: $49686
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brainiac View Post
If I recall correctly, Banyon is a liberal Democrat. And he just posted a pretty damning article about the Obama administration.

Kudos.
Per a post around 2006/07 banyon claimed to be a progressive. Iirc he said jAZ was a liberal. I think banyon labels himself accurately.
__________________
Bill Belichick learned to film signals of opponents from the former Chiefs, and Charger's coach Schottenheimer. Others like Edwards, Johnson and Cowher did too. They learned from the CHEATS and CHEATERS who still couldn't win.
Posts: 64,253
BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2014, 09:39 AM   #28
patteeu patteeu is offline
The 23rd Pillar
 
patteeu's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2002
Casino cash: $6308
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brainiac View Post
If I recall correctly, Banyon is a liberal Democrat. And he just posted a pretty damning article about the Obama administration.

Kudos.
Banyon has been down on Obama for a long time now.
__________________


"I'll see you guys in New York." ISIS Caliph Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi to US military personnel upon his release from US custody at Camp Bucca in Iraq during Obama's first year in office.
Posts: 75,847
patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2014, 03:13 PM   #29
Easy 6 Easy 6 is offline
ask for it by name
 
Easy 6's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: the drivers seat
Casino cash: $50582
Quote:
Originally Posted by HonestChieffan View Post
TPP will sail through when someone pushes the right button for Harry. Lots of teeth bashing by lots of groups over this thing but you done see a lot of mainstream coverage of it and not a lot of discussion of pros and cons in anything other than the sky is falling sites. I suspect it is due to not knowing what these assholes are up to, Kerry is a nitwit and Id assume he has no idea even if they tell him, and the media is to focused on stuff like cars on the roads in Atlanta
Truth.

If it weren't for Banyon posting this I bet most here wouldn't have even heard of it, neither side of the media is talking about this at all... it will just suddenly become a fact of life while no one is paying attention.
Posts: 34,042
Easy 6 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Easy 6 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Easy 6 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Easy 6 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Easy 6 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Easy 6 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Easy 6 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Easy 6 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Easy 6 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Easy 6 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Easy 6 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2014, 04:28 PM   #30
patteeu patteeu is offline
The 23rd Pillar
 
patteeu's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2002
Casino cash: $6308
Maybe the subject is too complex for me and/or the article isn't enough to bring me up to speed, but I'm having trouble being too worked up here. I'm sure there are some parts of the agreement that I wouldn't like, but in general, a trade agreement with Pacific Rim nations (excluding China) sounds like a good thing to me. But, of course, the devil is in the details so I reserve the right to be outraged over it at some point in the future.
__________________


"I'll see you guys in New York." ISIS Caliph Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi to US military personnel upon his release from US custody at Camp Bucca in Iraq during Obama's first year in office.
Posts: 75,847
patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:08 AM.


This is a test for a client's site.
A new website that shows member-created construction site listings that need fill or have excess fill. Dirt Monkey @ https://DirtMonkey.net
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2015, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.