Home Mail MemberMap Chat (0) Wallpapers
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > The Ed & Dave Lounge > D.C.

View Poll Results: What should Democrats give?
Cookie 4 23.53%
$3.50 off the individuate mandate penalty 0 0%
A pat on the head for doing their jobs 3 17.65%
Repeal the medical device tax 0 0%
Three shots each at Michelle in the dunk tank 0 0%
Pink slips 2 11.76%
"Something" 1 5.88%
Delay individual mandate for a year 3 17.65%
Yet another budget commission 0 0%
"Listen" to them intently 3 17.65%
Gaz 1 5.88%
Voters: 17. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-09-2013, 11:25 AM  
Cave Johnson Cave Johnson is offline
Andy the Big Reid Coach
 
Cave Johnson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: E. Bumf***istan
Casino cash: $6190
What should we give House Republicans for raising the debt ceiling?

Gaz is prepared to sacrifice for the good of the country.

Quote:
Two issues led to the shutdown. One was defunding or delaying Obamacare. The other, as Sen. Ted Cruz put it, was "making D.C. listen."

What's been remarkable -- and largely unnoticed -- is that Republicans have abandoned both those demands. But that hasn't led them to reopen the government -- much less swear off a debt-ceiling crisis. So the hostage remains even as the GOP rethinks and rewrites its ransom note.

"It is time, quite simply, to make D.C. listen," Cruz said during his 21-hour filibuster. But Cruz isn't listening to America. Fox News's Megyn Kelly confronted him about this on Monday night:

KELLY:: There is a poll that's just out tonight from Politico Senator show that your numbers with the American people aren't that great. I will show you. This has been released at 9:00 p.m. Eastern. Favorability are rating 26 percent, 45 percent have an unfavorable opinion of you, 29 percent say they aren't sure. So, the question is whether you are costing yourself and the GOP.

CRUZ: Well, I haven't seen the particular poll you are referencing. But I can tell you, at the end of the day, it doesn't matter.

"At the end of the day, it doesn't matter.' Does that sound like someone who's listening to America?

I asked Ted Cruz's office about this on Tuesday. They pointed out that Politico's poll is only of Virginia voters, which is fair enough. But other polls have shown overwhelming national majorities opposed to Cruz's campaign to shutdown the government in order to defund or delay Obamacare. His office says the shutdown is the Democrats' fault because they won't compromise on Obamacare. Cruz isn't listening. He's messaging.

The Republican Party is little better. For all the talk over how unpopular Obamacare is, the congressional GOP, at this point, is much less popular than Obamacare, with a 24 percent approval rating and a startling 70 percent disapproval rating. According to the latest Washington Post/ABC News poll, that's gotten worse since the shutdown. But they haven't reopened the government.

So much for following the will of the people. What's odder about the shutdown, though, is that Republicans have also abandoned their core policy demand. They've largely stopped talking about Obamacare. They're begging simply for negotiations. Their latest plan, in fact, is for another budget commission:

The GOP’s play, announced by Cantor at the meeting, is to push for a bicameral commission that brought comparisons to the “supercommittee” from the 2011 Budget Control Act.
In a Wall Street Journal op-ed, Paul Ryan articulates the emerging strategy. "To break the deadlock, both sides should agree to common-sense reforms of the country's entitlement programs and tax code," he writes. The word "Obamacare" never appears in the piece. Nor does any other reference to the president's health-care law.

The Republican Party initially justified this shutdown and these tactics to itself by arguing that it was channeling the will of the people and justified by the dangers of Obamacare. But they've lost pubic opinion and realized Obamacare isn't up for negotiation. But the loss of their original rationale for the shutdown hasn't led them to reopen the government. So now, as Rep. Martin Stutzman truthfully but unfortunately put it, they're just trying “to get something out of this." They don't know what they want except for something that lets them argue they didn't lose.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...s-ransom-note/
Posts: 9,856
Cave Johnson is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Cave Johnson is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Cave Johnson is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Cave Johnson is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Cave Johnson is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Cave Johnson is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Cave Johnson is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Cave Johnson is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Cave Johnson is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Cave Johnson is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Cave Johnson is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-09-2013, 11:47 AM   #2
alpha_omega alpha_omega is online now
MVP
 
alpha_omega's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Liberty
Casino cash: $6170
How about a 25% across the board budget cut?
Posts: 6,723
alpha_omega Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.alpha_omega Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.alpha_omega Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.alpha_omega Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.alpha_omega Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.alpha_omega Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.alpha_omega Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.alpha_omega Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.alpha_omega Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.alpha_omega Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.alpha_omega Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-09-2013, 11:55 AM   #3
Taco John Taco John is offline
12on Paul
 
Taco John's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jun 2001
Casino cash: $5990
Ezra Klein: Two issues led to the shutdown. One was defunding or delaying Obamacare. The other, as Sen. Ted Cruz put it, was "making D.C. listen." What's been remarkable -- and largely unnoticed -- is that Republicans have abandoned both those demands.


Uh, no they haven't. This female version of Rachel Maddow has a very short attention span.
__________________
Ehyeh asher ehyeh.
Posts: 50,875
Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-09-2013, 12:19 PM   #4
LiveSteam LiveSteam is offline
All aboard the crazy train
 
LiveSteam's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: homeof43conferencetitles
Casino cash: $6437
a machine gun to shoot you moonbats with
Posts: 16,909
LiveSteam is obviously part of the inner Circle.LiveSteam is obviously part of the inner Circle.LiveSteam is obviously part of the inner Circle.LiveSteam is obviously part of the inner Circle.LiveSteam is obviously part of the inner Circle.LiveSteam is obviously part of the inner Circle.LiveSteam is obviously part of the inner Circle.LiveSteam is obviously part of the inner Circle.LiveSteam is obviously part of the inner Circle.LiveSteam is obviously part of the inner Circle.LiveSteam is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-09-2013, 12:42 PM   #5
AustinChief AustinChief is offline
Administrator
 
AustinChief's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Austin
Casino cash: $6772
Quote:
Originally Posted by Taco John View Post
Ezra Klein: Two issues led to the shutdown. One was defunding or delaying Obamacare. The other, as Sen. Ted Cruz put it, was "making D.C. listen." What's been remarkable -- and largely unnoticed -- is that Republicans have abandoned both those demands.


Uh, no they haven't. This female version of Rachel Maddow has a very short attention span.
HAHAHAHAHA. Ok that's funny.
Posts: 14,703
AustinChief has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.AustinChief has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.AustinChief has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.AustinChief has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.AustinChief has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.AustinChief has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.AustinChief has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.AustinChief has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.AustinChief has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.AustinChief has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.AustinChief has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-09-2013, 12:43 PM   #6
cosmo20002 cosmo20002 is offline
Debunking your bullshit
 
cosmo20002's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: KC area
Casino cash: $8581
Quote:
Originally Posted by LiveSteam View Post
a machine gun to shoot you moonbats with
We would, but we're trying to ban them! Amirite?


Seriously though, I'm not in favor of banning guns.
Posts: 18,333
cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-09-2013, 12:44 PM   #7
Amnorix Amnorix is offline
In BB I trust
 
Amnorix's Avatar
 

Join Date: May 2003
Location: Boston, Mass.
Casino cash: $6145
Quote:
Originally Posted by alpha_omega View Post
How about a 25% across the board budget cut?

Military too?

Social Security?

Medicare benefits?

Unemployment?

FBI/Homeland Security?

It's always easy until you start to pick specific programs.
__________________
"I love signature blocks on the Internet. I get to put whatever the hell I want in quotes, pick a pretend author, and bang, it's like he really said it." George Washington
Posts: 33,151
Amnorix has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Amnorix has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Amnorix has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Amnorix has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Amnorix has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Amnorix has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Amnorix has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Amnorix has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Amnorix has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Amnorix has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Amnorix has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-09-2013, 03:51 PM   #8
alpha_omega alpha_omega is online now
MVP
 
alpha_omega's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Liberty
Casino cash: $6170
Quote:
Originally Posted by Amnorix View Post
Military too?

Social Security?

Medicare benefits?

Unemployment?

FBI/Homeland Security?

It's always easy until you start to pick specific programs.
All of it. (except social security...that's a separate issue IMO).
Posts: 6,723
alpha_omega Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.alpha_omega Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.alpha_omega Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.alpha_omega Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.alpha_omega Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.alpha_omega Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.alpha_omega Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.alpha_omega Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.alpha_omega Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.alpha_omega Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.alpha_omega Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-09-2013, 06:05 PM   #9
banyon banyon is offline
Supporter
 
banyon's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Dodge City, Kansas
Casino cash: $5535
If they grant a concession for just opening the government for 6 weeks, what will they want in 6 weeks.
__________________
Posts: 32,665
banyon wants to die in a aids tree fire.banyon wants to die in a aids tree fire.banyon wants to die in a aids tree fire.banyon wants to die in a aids tree fire.banyon wants to die in a aids tree fire.banyon wants to die in a aids tree fire.banyon wants to die in a aids tree fire.banyon wants to die in a aids tree fire.banyon wants to die in a aids tree fire.banyon wants to die in a aids tree fire.banyon wants to die in a aids tree fire.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-09-2013, 06:47 PM   #10
patteeu patteeu is offline
The 23rd Pillar
 
patteeu's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2002
Casino cash: $5000
I'd settle for Obama stepping down, for now.
__________________


"I'll see you guys in New York." ISIS Caliph Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi to US military personnel upon his release from US custody at Camp Bucca in Iraq during Obama's first year in office.
Posts: 75,744
patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-09-2013, 08:16 PM   #11
Dayze Dayze is offline
Resident Glue Sniffer
 
Dayze's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Overland Park
Casino cash: $8127
cut defense spending.
__________________
Life is 99% inspiration, 1% Perspiration, and 1% Attention to Detial.
Posts: 25,885
Dayze is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dayze is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dayze is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dayze is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dayze is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dayze is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dayze is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dayze is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dayze is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dayze is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dayze is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-09-2013, 08:49 PM   #12
chuxtrux chuxtrux is offline
Starter
 

Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Grbacs basement
Casino cash: $5060
I would just want him to cut back on spending. Wait, I just want him to cut back on spending on stuff that doesn't affect me. Wait, I just want him to cut back on spending on stuff that doesn't affect me and increase spending on things that affect me. Also, he has to get a tattoo of Benghazi on his right ass cheek and post a pic on the Internet and maybe a pic him without a shirt and TO GET RID OF GAY MARRIAGE!
Posts: 375
chuxtrux is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutchuxtrux is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutchuxtrux is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutchuxtrux is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutchuxtrux is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutchuxtrux is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutchuxtrux is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutchuxtrux is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutchuxtrux is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutchuxtrux is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutchuxtrux is the dumbass Milkman is always talking about
  Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:28 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.