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Old 10-14-2013, 12:17 PM  
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Ezra Klein: Thus Far, Obamacare a ‘Big Failure’

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The Washington Post’s Ezra Klein, an Obamacare supporter, slammed the launch of the program’s online exchanges the the wake of widespread reports of stalled and dysfunctional websites. Klein warned that, given the websites’ ongoing problems, there may be “deeper, more systemic problems.”

“We’re a couple of weeks in and people can’t sign up, people have tried 20, 30, 40 times,” Klein said on Morning Joe on Monday. “It’s one thing for that to be true the first three or four days, it’s another thing for it to be true two or three weeks in.”

“One of the Obama administration’s jobs, separate from all of the political stuff we talk about here, is to simply run things like this well, to run their signature legislative initiative well,” he continued. “On that, so far, this has been a big failure.”
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Old 10-14-2013, 10:19 PM   #16
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Former Obama aide: Health care roll out 'embarrassing'

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Former White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said Monday that heads should roll over the glitch-riddled roll out this month of the Affordable Care Act exchanges.

Gibbs, who served in President Obama's first administration and is now an MSNBC contributor, said the problems with the federal government's online exchange have been "excruciatingly embarrassing."

The healthcare.gov website, which went online on Oct. 1, has proved to be balky, and the White House has blamed the problems on an avalanche of public interest in the exchanges.

"I hope they are working day and night to get this done," Gibbs said on MSNBC. "When they get it fixed, I hope they fire some people that were in charge of making sure that this thing was supposed to work."

Gibbs also questioned the White House's claim that the heavy traffic on the website is to blame for the difficulties at healthcare.gov since it opened on Oct. 1.

"This is not a server problem, like too many people came to the website — this is a website architecture problem," Gibbs said. He added, "if they don't get these glitches figured out fast, people aren't going to come back."

RNC chairman Reince Priebus began calling last week for Obama to fire Health of Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius because of the health care web site's problems.

Following Gibbs comment on Monday, Republican National Committee spokeswoman Kirsten Kukowski remarked "apparently there's bipartisan agreement that someone must be fired for the Obamacare launch."
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Old 10-14-2013, 10:42 PM   #17
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Yikes! Got news my HC is going up $1200 at $100 more a month. That's on top of the $700 increase from last year. $1900 increase!!! That's the largest spike I've ever seen. Plus the deductible is higher and it covers less.

Thank you commie bama. You ass!
Cosmobamapaidshill and Diflecshun should be here shortly to explain that your insurance has been going up this high every year. It has nothing to do with Obama Care.
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Old 10-15-2013, 07:21 AM   #18
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BuckEyedPea,

What are you going to do about this increase? Are you going to bend over and take it? Or you plan to buy a cheaper but unqualified policy and take the penalty?
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Old 10-15-2013, 07:30 AM   #19
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BuckEyedPea,

What are you going to do about this increase? Are you going to bend over and take it? Or you plan to buy a cheaper but unqualified policy and take the penalty?
I don't know yet. My current insurance boasts how it is in compliance with ACA and how they support it. Meanwhile, the 85% that had HC or liked their plans, are being thrown under the bus in order to subsidize the 15% that had none. It certainly works like a huge tax increase, without the income increase.
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Old 10-15-2013, 07:31 AM   #20
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Yikes! Got news my HC is going up $1200 at $100 more a month. That's on top of the $700 increase from last year. $1900 increase!!! That's the largest spike I've ever seen. Plus the deductible is higher and it covers less.


Everyone's is going up same as it always is./cosmo
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Old 10-15-2013, 07:51 AM   #21
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The way the already insured are being bent over you'd think there would be a provision in Obamacare to make rectal exams free.
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Old 10-15-2013, 07:51 AM   #22
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Here is a subsidy calculator link. I don't know how legit it is.
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Old 10-15-2013, 07:57 AM   #23
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On average the increases are really pretty average.
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Old 10-15-2013, 08:19 AM   #24
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'So much wrong' with Obamacare sites: Aetna CEO

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Aetna (AET)'s CEO gave a harshly critical review of the federal government's Obamacare marketplace Tuesday, saying "there's so much wrong, you just don't know what's broken until you get a lot more of it fixed."

Asked on CNBC's "Squawk Box" if he knew the roll-out of the federal Healthcare.gov website would be problematic, Aetna chief Mark Bertolini said his giant insurance company's role as an alpha tester for the system gave it a sense of how many problems the health insurance marketplace was facing on the eve of launch.

"We were pretty nervous as we got further along," Bertolini said. "As they started missing deadlines, we were pretty convinced it was going to be a difficult launch."

(Read more: Rx for Obamacare? Feds mull rebuilding website )

Since then, Bertolini said his fears have been realized, and the technological debacle seen at Healthcare.gov is one similar to just the handful he's witnessed in his career.

"It's nothing you ever like to repeat," he said. "Because it's very difficult. I've been there. It's career-ending in a lot of cases."

'On the fly'

"It's all been on the fly," Bertolini said of the construction of the marketplace, and the integration of insurers like Aetna whose plans are being offered for sale to up 40 million customers.

"We didn't get code drops until the last month before the system went live," he said.

Healthcare.gov was besieged by visitors to the site went it launched Oct. 1, and has struggled since then to deal with a raft of software problems, including transmitting data to insurers and even allowing people to shop for plans.

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It is not clear how many-or how few-people have even enrolled in insurance plans sold on the website.

Asked how long the marketplace, also known as an exchange, will take to fix, Bertolini said, "That's the big question."


"I think the bigger issue is: Will enough people sign up to make it work?" said Bertolini, whose company, like other insurers, is counting on enough young, healthy people enrolling in the insurance plans to offset the costs that come from providing benefits to older, sicker Americans.


"I think the attention span of the younger generation in using technology is that if it doesn't work the first time, it's going to be pretty hard to get them back the second time," he said. "If the program blows up because people don't sign up, then the program's not going to move ahead either all that well."

Open enrollment in the Obamacare policies closes March 31 . Asked if that was enough time to correct the system's problems, Bertolini said, "I don't know."

'I would have' delayed

Asked if he would have delayed the launch of the exchange given its earlier problems, Bertolini said, "I would have, if I'd been in their seat."

But "the politics got in the way of a good business decision," he said.

(Read more: Obamacare delays )


However, Bertolini also said, "It's the law of the land, number one. Number two, public exchanges are going to be here to stay, so we need to make them work somehow ...The question is: How do we get from here to there?"

He predicted that it could take three years or so before the marketplace's problems are fully sorted out.

-By CNBC's Dan Mangan. Follow him on Twitter @_DanMangan
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Old 10-15-2013, 08:39 AM   #25
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Everyone's is going up same as it always is./cosmo
Heh! Heh! Sure prices have been climbing, afterall there's been over 2000 mandates placed on health insurance over many years. Supply and demand is at work with mandates pushing up the demand curve, via govt intervention, and insurance passing along the costs. ( But the lefties hate insurance companies and blame them while they feed and fatten them.) But Obamacare is the MOTHER of all MANDATES. So this unusually high spike, is the mother of all increases.

Meanwhile, hospitals are laying people off. If we're warned to not mess with Mother Nature, then I don't see why the same warning doesn't apply to the laws of economics. They just follow natural laws.
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