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Old 10-10-2013, 05:43 PM  
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NBC/WSJ poll: People blame the GOP more than they did during the 1995 shutdown

Another day, another disastrous poll for the House suicide caucus. Dems also up on the generic ballot by 8 points, 47-39.

NBC/WSJ poll: Shutdown debate damages GOP

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By a 22-point margin (53 percent to 31 percent), the public blames the Republican Party more for the shutdown than President Barack Obama – a wider margin of blame for the GOP than the party received during the poll during the last shutdown in 1995-96.

Just 24 percent of respondents have a favorable opinion about the GOP, and only 21 percent have a favorable view of the Tea Party, which are both at all-time lows in the history of the poll.


Yet what is perhaps even more worrisome for the GOP is the “boomerang” effect: As the party has used the shutdown and fiscal fight to campaign against the nation’s health-care law and for limited government, the poll shows those efforts have backfired.

For one thing, the health-care law has become more popular since the shutdown began. Thirty-eight percent see the Affordable Care Act (or “Obamacare”) as a good idea, versus 43 percent who see it as a bad idea – up from 31 percent good idea, 44 percent bad idea last month.

In addition, 50 percent say they oppose totally eliminating funding for the law, even if it that means a partial shutdown of the government. That’s up from 46 percent who said they opposed that move in a Sept. 2013 CNBC poll.
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Old 10-13-2013, 12:02 AM   #61
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Old 10-13-2013, 12:17 AM   #62
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Baby Boomers seem particularly susceptible to FoxNews-itis. Almost all of my family has caught it
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Old 10-13-2013, 05:46 AM   #63
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We all remember what happened the last time fringe rights wingers stuck their head in the sand in the face of legit polling data.

They were blindsided by the reelection of Barack Obama but were too stupid to see it coming.
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Old 10-15-2013, 09:40 PM   #64
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Both parties are wrong, but it's obvious that public perception is that one party is being blamed more than the other. That's in Gallup. And now with the right-leaning Wall Street Journal.

The people who are thick are the Republicans who completely refuse to admit they have an image problem. While the tea party and the Ron Paul disciples were giving standing ovations for outrightly defying Congress, the Republicans created an image of being impossible to work with.

The Republicans could have done the same thing with completely different results just by a little self awareness. But we put the party in the hands of guys who would rather prove a point than get things done.
Agreed. And starting this fight over Obamacare again was beyond retarded. Want to change the law? Sell your ideas to the public get more of your people elected and overturn it. Simple actually.
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Old 10-15-2013, 09:41 PM   #65
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Nope. At least not all of us.
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Old 10-15-2013, 10:05 PM   #67
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We all remember what happened the last time fringe rights wingers stuck their head in the sand in the face of legit polling data.

They were blindsided by the reelection of Barack Obama but were too stupid to see it coming.
Nice job, Zach. Nice job...indeed.

And kudos to Dave Lane as well....FOX news, indeed: Rich people telling rich people, to tell middle class people, that poor people are to blame! Priceless, beyond measure. Would be much more accurate than their "We report, you decide" complete and utter bullshit. Heh.
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