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Old 10-16-2013, 09:44 PM  
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Would you trade Flowers next year?

For a 2nd round pick? We've seen the defense play just as good if not better without him.

If Cooper continues to play like he has been you have him on a 4 year 7th round pick deal.

You have to pay Justin Houston. I wouldn't be surprised to see Charles hold out given the way he's being used and his current bargain contract.

IIRC Berrys contract will be up in a few years too.

The defense is set the offense needs a lot of improvement obviously. An extra pick would help. I would make that trade.
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Old 10-17-2013, 01:49 PM   #136
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I just picked a draft that guys had a chance to establish themselves a bit. 2010 was the first and only one that I've looked at.

Gronk is the only guys you can say for sure would offer more than Flowers at this point. No way on Dunlap and a backup RB or a top 10 CB? Serious?
Flowers is a better player than Ben Tate however if Flowers were out the rest of this year the Chiefs would still have the best defense in the league.

If Jamaal Charles goes down who do we have? Ben Tate is a nice player who's only a backup because Arian Foster is one of the best backs in the league.

So tell me in 2014 how does John Dorsey make much needed improvements to the offense with limited gap space?
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Old 10-17-2013, 01:51 PM   #137
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Yeah, the point was you have about a 10% chance at best of finding a comparable player. A bird in the hand and all that jazz.

Just looked at 09. It's about the same. 3-4 guys that catch your eye and McCoy is the Gronk of that class.
Even with the guys selected, I'm still not sure how much more value/impact they'd have than Flowers (sans Gronk, injury and all). It'd be nice to have another absolute monster playing ILB next to DJ but I'd rather be 3 deep at corner.
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Old 10-17-2013, 01:58 PM   #138
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Flowers is a better player than Ben Tate however if Flowers were out the rest of this year the Chiefs would still have the best defense in the league.

If Jamaal Charles goes down who do we have? Ben Tate is a nice player who's only a backup because Arian Foster is one of the best backs in the league.

So tell me in 2014 how does John Dorsey make much needed improvements to the offense with limited gap space?
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Old 10-17-2013, 02:17 PM   #139
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Any info on if KC is going after Nicks or Gordon? Jeff Chadhia confirmed that they're trying for TG
No one is going after Gordon. Hes pretty much untouchable at this point.
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This place melted down when we didn't pay Carr $50MM and now people are suggesting to trade Flowers because a late round draft pick cut by another team has had 3 solid games.

Just because YOU didn't know who Marcus Cooper was doesn't mean the rest of the league didn't. He wasn't cut because he was garbage, they cut him because they wanted him on the practice squad.
He was in a numbers game, and lost. If they had known Culliver was going down like that, he never would of been cut.
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For all of Alex Smiths faults, one of his more attractive traits, is his light salary.

Cutting Chase is far more the likely answer.
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Old 10-17-2013, 02:18 PM   #140
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Old 10-17-2013, 02:27 PM   #141
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No one is going after Gordon. Hes pretty much untouchable at this point.

Just because YOU didn't know who Marcus Cooper was doesn't mean the rest of the league didn't. He wasn't cut because he was garbage, they cut him because they wanted him on the practice squad.
He was in a numbers game, and lost. If they had known Culliver was going down like that, he never would of been cut.


For all of Alex Smiths faults, one of his more attractive traits, is his light salary.

Cutting Chase is far more the likely answer.
Fine cut Chase, turn the keys over to Bray and keep Alice as the backup. Improve the offense and save some money.
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Old 10-17-2013, 02:29 PM   #142
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Fine cut Chase, turn the keys over to Bray and keep Alice as the backup. Improve the offense and save some money.
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Old 10-17-2013, 03:51 PM   #143
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When healthy, Flowers is still the best cover corner on this team. He does struggle against taller receivers, but he's still one of the better corners in this league. If someone came by offering a first, I'd take it. I don't like the idea of trading some of your best play makers though. Especially when your team is vying for the playoffs.
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Old 12-01-2013, 04:13 PM   #144
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