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Old 08-31-2012, 06:24 PM  
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Why people laugh at Creationists

Taking a lead from Killer Clown I thought I'd create a alternative thread to post some videos I like...

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"Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it.
Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many.
Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books.
Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders.
Do not believe in traditions simply because they have been handed down for many generations.
But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it."

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Old 10-22-2013, 05:56 PM   #3091
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Like an apple is an apple ? But a PC aint an APPLE . How we interpret data effects the outcome . Tesla was like Newton but not as isolated. Why is it so hard for people to think with their senses ? We use machines now. I keep injecting Paper Clip as well because that was huge. Another interesting aspect to that was who was at Princeton before the holocaust went back to Germany and who returned afterwards. How critical is the content of the body of scientists to what Science is called and how it is taught ? Perhaps observation versus Experiencing. Why do we have to wait until we can confirm animals are more human than we care to believe when it comes to feeling ? And Love ? And Death ? So then what do we say of Spirit and Faith ?


I had a high school chemistry teacher who loved to talk in a German accent and blow things up. On parents night he closed the door with the parents in the seats and proceeded to play with Nitro Glycerin. He wore leather and drove a BMW. Dude was wild.
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Old 10-22-2013, 06:17 PM   #3092
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Not when it comes to murder rape and theft and stuff like that .
Yes, even then. There are multiple definitions of murder. Force and choice can be blurred during sexual acts. Possession and need is often debated.
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Old 10-22-2013, 06:17 PM   #3093
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You know I would like to return to this . How is a ladder saving a persons life from a burning building any different from all the stuff done now ? Well , for one just because I can make a ladder that saves lives doesnt mean I discount the legitimacy and integrity of the Bible in its original tounges. Would the cultures of Empire even consider conservation without the Ark as a guide ? Furthermore the same industries making advances in life saving equipment and procedures are also destroying . I am really tired of hurry up and screw things up more so we have to tech to pull ourselves out of the mess we created. Again no brake man on this train it seems. Jesus H Christ its nuts.
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Old 10-22-2013, 06:49 PM   #3094
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Well , I tell you what , by the time Darwin published his ideas and Eugenics got off the ground there has been an aweful lot of genocide so to speak. And again I bring up Paper Clip and Nazi Scientists . Why is it that these people were so advanced in their thinking ? What is the impetus that give birth to innovation ? See an awful lot has been swept under the rug in the name of progress. I have a hard time separating the thinking that goes that with the impetus that uses scientific inquiry to get results . Peopel are being sold on the agenda as it being Science. And Nestle has decided water is a commodity that needs to be under the control of the Elite and not by basic human interests. Bush invested in Aquifers in SA if I am not mistaken. I really see immoral impetus driving sceintific inquiries and its all about where the drivers want to go. But ist all science and we must obey because science doesnt lie.
There isn't any science in racism, in fact race doesn't actually mean anything in this context. Nestle is taking advantage of laziness, not science. You are commingling discovery with human weakness. Data simply is. Regardless of who discovers it or why.
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Old 10-22-2013, 07:13 PM   #3095
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I know what you are saying , I cant see the human element being disregarded in shaping the body of data and what it is used for creating . We can find a way to utilize the facilities and advances that have been made but the makeup of the complete mind we call science is overun with a cancerous aspect. We arent evolving as a society we are self destructing. The problem is very close to the method .
It's all there in the method if the data is dealt with in honesty. The problem is human.
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Old 10-22-2013, 08:23 PM   #3096
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Well , I tell you what , by the time Darwin published his ideas and Eugenics got off the ground there has been an aweful lot of genocide so to speak.
Deuteronomy 3

1 Next we turned and went up along the road toward Bashan, and Og king of Bashan with his whole army marched out to meet us in battle at Edrei. 2 The Lord said to me, “Do not be afraid of him, for I have delivered him into your hands, along with his whole army and his land. Do to him what you did to Sihon king of the Amorites, who reigned in Heshbon.”

3 So the Lord our God also gave into our hands Og king of Bashan and all his army. We struck them down, leaving no survivors. 4 At that time we took all his cities. There was not one of the sixty cities that we did not take from them—the whole region of Argob, Og’s kingdom in Bashan. 5 All these cities were fortified with high walls and with gates and bars, and there were also a great many unwalled villages. 6 We completely destroyed[a] them, as we had done with Sihon king of Heshbon, destroying[b] every city—men, women and children. 7 But all the livestock and the plunder from their cities we carried off for ourselves.
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Old 10-22-2013, 08:34 PM   #3097
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And they did it with swords and stuff not gas chambers , small pox infected blankets , TNT , mustard gas , .........
I'm sure Og's people appreciated the humanity of their children being run though, rather than being blowed up with dynamite.
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Old 10-23-2013, 02:40 PM   #3098
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"I Don't Have Enough Faith to be an Atheist" - Frank Turek. For all of you out there who are legitimate critical thinkers. There is FAR more evidence for creationism than anything else... not even close
Theres a youtube I posted in this thread that breaks down all the fallacies in his book I believe its 5 parts of 20 minutes or so each to cover all the errors in one book. But on the bright side that might be a record.
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High Tech is Sorcery and the people who are really powerful are literally telling people to commit crimes using the psychic interspace created by the WWW and Wireless. They are controlling peoples actions like drones . The two things are deeply intertwined. The more man's brain interfaces with machines the creepier it gets. They use brains separate from a human body in a supercomputer and you have The Image of the Beast. The military has been doing this since the 50s
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Old 10-23-2013, 03:23 PM   #3099
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Creation is alot like 9-11 . Some of it happened like they said it did , and then there is the stuffr they deny and cover up . Anyone who believes they can prove we weren't formed into what we are are missing out on alot of the mystery that is yet to be uncovered.
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Science wins again! Keep religious opinions out of schools!

Texas Textbook Publishers Say No To Creationism: Watchdog Report

It appears that science is prevailing in the latest battle over Texas schoolbooks.

Though earlier this year several of the state’s textbook reviewers called for biology textbooks to discuss creationism, publishers are not complying with those requests, according to the Texas Freedom Network. The nonpartisan watchdog examined material made public by the Texas Education Agency and found that publishers are sticking with teaching evolution.

Citizens who serve on the Texas review panels are charged with making suggestions about proposed classroom texts that are being considered for the state's list of “approved” schoolbooks. While most reviewers on this year’s biology panel made routine, noncontroversial suggestions, some took issue with the fact that the proposed books did not include information about creationism while focusing on evolution.

However, information that publishers submitted to the Texas Education Agency show they are not incorporating the suggestions about "creation science" and plan to print books free of references to the theory of intelligent design.

“This is a very welcome development for everyone who opposes teaching phony science about evolution in our kid’s public schools,” said Texas Freedom Network President Kathy Miller in a press release. “Texas parents can applaud these publishers for standing up to pressure from politicians and activists who want to put their personal beliefs ahead of giving Texas students a 21st-century science education.”

Josh Rosenau, the programs and policy director at the National Center for Science Education, also declared the publishers' response a victory for science.

“They didn’t put in anything creationist or dangerous, so I’m prepared to call this a victory for the publishers,” he told The Huffington Post. “They stood strong against the pressure of the reviewers.”
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Well , trying to prove or disprove intelligent design overall is kinda pointless .
The overwhelming majority of intelligent design is actually quite easy to disprove. This thread contains quite a bit of references to that..
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Only to those who are in a box that seeing things that way. Bambi was fine until Godzilla stepped on him. It seems to me at this point there is alot to win or lose as far as how a person sees reality . I'm simply thankful I can see things with an open end instead of closing the case and flooring it into oblivion. Bigger Better Faster More. There was a lady in some pretty colorful clothing driving a car with that written on it. It was an old guzzler tuna baot of a car . Had breasts a vagina sculpted on the front hood and I cant remember what was on the back . There was a pyramid on the roof. Full speed ahead Scotty.
One shouldn't believe everything they see. Sight is untrustworthy. It's influenced by your emotion and imagination. I have no doubt that you see quite a bit. But you might want to work on the critical thinking step that filters out the hallucinations.
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The woman driving the car wasnt a hallunication. She parked in the produce market parking lot and a bunch of us were looking at the car
and scratching our heads. Funny thing was she felt uncomfortable being stared at as she got into the car . Perhaps for you sight is influenced the way you say it is . I am a camera .
I wasn't necessarily talking about your strange woman in the car story. But regardless, you wouldn't be able to distinguish a hallucination from reality. That's why it's a hallucination.

You are a camera? LOL.....
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How can you distinguish a dream with significant pre cognitive content relating to the next days experiences and a regular dream that doesnt map ? That is to say before you are out the door and experiecing the next days events . How do you know if what you dream is not simply mental house cleaning ? Its all in how complex ones internal cognitive are and how much work has been put into developing them. In large part that has to do with what we read , write , speak and practice .
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See ? Thats what I thought , you arent simply after Creationists you are after everything that doesnt fit your specific scientific paradigm. Please correct me if I am mistaken .
Huh? What does creationism have to do with precognitive dreaming? You're just jumping from one wacky topic to another, and getting disappointed when I'm not following your rambling thought process. If you could simply link one valid thought to another it would really help the flow of discussion.
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