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Old 10-25-2013, 10:05 AM  
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Iran could produce enough weapons-grade uranium to build a nuclear bomb in as little as a month, according to a new estimate by one of the USA's top nuclear experts.

The new assessment comes as the White House invited Senate staffers to a briefing on negotiations with Iran as it is trying to persuade Congress not to go ahead with a bill to stiffen sanctions against Iran.

"Shortening breakout times have implications for any negotiation with Iran," stated the report by the Institute for Science and International Security. "An essential finding is that they are currently too short and shortening further."

David Albright, president of the institute and a former inspector for the U.N. International Atomic Energy Agency, said the estimate means that Iran would have to eliminate more than half of its 19,000 centrifuges to extend the time it would take to build a bomb to six months.

The Obama administration has said Iran is probably a year away from having enough enriched uranium to make a bomb.

Bernadette Meehan, an NSC spokeswoman for President Obama's National Security Council, said the intelligence community maintains "a number of assessments" regarding potential time frames for Iran to produce enough weapons-grade uranium for one weapon or a testable nuclear device.hi

"We continue to closely monitor the Iranian nuclear program and its stockpile of enriched uranium," Meehan said.

World powers are seeking an agreement "that ultimately resolves all of the international community's concerns about Iran's nuclear program," she said. "The ultimate goal is a comprehensive agreement that is credible, transparent, and verifiable."

In the report, Albright said negotiations with Iran should focus on so-called "breakout" times, or the time required to convert low-enriched uranium to weapons-grade.

Albright, who has testified before Congress, said the negotiators should try to find ways to lengthen the breakout times and shorten the time that inspectors could detect breakout. ISIS' analysis is based on the latest Iranian and United Nations reports on Iran's centrifuge equipment for producing nuclear fuel and its nuclear fuel stockpiles.

Iran's stockpile of medium-enriched uranium has nearly doubled in a year's time and its number of centrifuges has expanded from 12,000 in 2012 to 19,000 today.

Sen. Mark Kirk, an Illinois Republican whose Senate Banking Committee is considering legislation to tighten Iran sanctions, said the report shows that Iran is expanding its nuclear capabilities under the cover of negotiations.

"The Senate should move forward immediately with a new round of sanctions to prevent Iran from acquiring an undetectable breakout capability," he said.

The White House has said new sanctions legislation should wait while current negotiations — scheduled to resume officially in Geneva next month — are moving forward.

The White House said Thursday it will continue consulting with Congress "so that any congressional action is aligned with our negotiating strategy as we move forward," said Caitlin Hayden, a spokeswoman for President Obama's National Security Council.

Iranian President Hassan Rouhani has said his country has no interest in nuclear weapons but that producing nuclear fuel is Iran's right. His foreign minister, Javad Zarif, has said Iran will not ship its nuclear stockpile to a third country.

However, Iran has blocked international inspectors from some suspected nuclear facilities to verify they are being used for peaceful purposes, access required under international agreements it has signed.

United Nations inspectors have found evidence of a weapons program in violation of Iran's commitment under the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. The USA and the U.N. Security Council have implemented crippling economic sanctions on Iran to sway it to take steps to assure the world it is not developing a bomb.

Israel, which sees an Iranian nuclear bomb as a threat to its very existence, has said it will take military action to prevent Iran from getting a bomb.

ISIS estimated in October 2012 that Iran could produce enough highly-enriched uranium for a bomb within two to four months. The new estimate is based on an analysis of the latest reports by Iran and the the IAEA.

ISIS considered various scenarios, including if Iran decided to build a covert enrichment plant like it has under a mountain in Fordow, near the city of Qom, that was designed for optimal efficiency and minimal time to enrich enough uranium for bomb making. Such a facility built with current Iranian technology could produce enough material for a bomb in a week, according to the ISIS report.

"If they did that and they were caught it would be a smoking gun of a nuclear weapons program," Albright said.

If Iran moves ahead with installation of its more efficient, second generation centrifuges, it would be able to produce enough nuclear fuel for a bomb with so few of them, between 2,000 and 3,300 centrifuges, that they could fit in a small warehouse, Albright said.
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Old 10-26-2013, 02:26 PM   #76
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A Republican Rep in Congress has crafted legislation to use military force on Iran. Ostensibly it says it's for diplomacy but it really isn't. That's just its cover. Graham is crafting a similar one in the Senate. King and deMint are in a showdown over this....this seems to be ferreting out the real limited govt Republicans from the Globalist-Progressive ones.
Anyone who is for such a limited government that you're incapable of fighting a war is an idealistic nut, not a conservative. War is undesirable, but it's sometimes necessary for security.
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Old 10-26-2013, 08:09 PM   #77
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Anyone who is for such a limited government that you're incapable of fighting a war is an idealistic nut, not a conservative. War is undesirable, but it's sometimes necessary for security.
Nope. Starting a war is being an aggressor. That is NOT a conservative position. It's neo conservative. It's also something Napoleon and Hitler would do.

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Old 10-26-2013, 09:54 PM   #78
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Why do you have the Rosy Cross for your avatar? Are you a Rosicrucian?
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Old 10-26-2013, 10:44 PM   #79
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Old 10-27-2013, 09:07 AM   #80
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Well , there were Christian Kabalists and Jewish Kabalists , Masons , and the we had the Golden Dawn and what we end up with is a modified Rosicrution Cross . Crowely stole it for his own purposes , I took it back . It does say Magister Jesus Christus on the back you know . Its really only for those who are sober minded and substance free. I am surprised it took this long for someone to say something . I dont know anyone in the Rosicrution order , I just think its a great design seeing I do Hebrew and Greek illuminated manuscript work. All scripture of course.
Oh, I know what the Rosy Cross is and noticed it earlier without comment and wondered.

Now is this "Crowely" meant to be the Crowley as in Aleister Crowely, or another?
Or is it just a typo?

I knew of Jewish Kabbalah but never heard of the Christian kind. 'Er well, perhaps, Madonna (allegedly a Catholic ) but I thought that was a new thing started by her. I thought Christianity, particularly Catholicism, condemned Kabbalah.

Hmmmm Greek and Hebrew illuminated manuscript work? That's a new one for me too. I've studied Art History and am only familiar with the Christian kind. I'll have to check those out.
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Old 10-27-2013, 09:36 AM   #81
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Old 10-27-2013, 09:46 AM   #82
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There are Jewish Sophers , Monk Scribes , Lawyers and magicians , they all have to be adept at crafts. Jews did torah work and festival books and marriage contracts, still do . Then we have the Lindisfarne gospels , book of Kells ...... Art and archictecture and writing are someowhat lost on the masses when it comes to how culture works . I took Hebrew and illluminated it with Celtic knots and built upon that with other work.
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Nope. Starting a war is being an aggressor. That is NOT a conservative position. It's neo conservative. It's also something Napoleon and Hitler would do.

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Your statement* was about the relationship between small government conservatives and war, suggesting that you couldn't be in favor of military action if you were a true small government conservative. That's obviously rubbish.

And let's not forget that Ben Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, John Adams and George Wasington started a war too. Like Napoleon and Hitler would do, I guess. Or, given that they weren't heads of state at the time, maybe they were more like Osama bin Laden.

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Old 10-27-2013, 11:29 AM   #84
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Your statement was about the relationship between small government conservatives and war, suggesting that you couldn't be in favor of military action if you were a true small government conservative. That's obviously rubbish.
You omit much because you are spinning what I said. I am talking about starting a war on a nation because they decide to arm themselves while it is being surrounded by a superpower with bases on its border and who invaded a neighbor, who has MEK inside its country committing terrorists acts in order to agitate and foment another overthrow of their govt. Furthermore, our treasure and blood is to be used for two other nations--not for our own defense. The Soviet Union armed themselves to a much greater degree and we did not bomb them either.

Other than that, this is just your opinion. A NC opinion.

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And let's not forget that Ben Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, John Adams and George Wasington started a war too. Like Napoleon and Hitler would do, I guess. Or, given that they weren't heads of state at the time, maybe they were more like Osama bin Laden.
Nope! No comparison whatsoever. Those guys rebelled against their own govt and seceded from Great Britain who shot the first shots. Not even in the same category of thing.

Now tell me what Washington said in his Farewell Address about permanent entangling alliances patteeu.
These guys, except for perhaps Hamilton, are not match for today's NeoCons.
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You omit much because you are spinning what I said. I am talking about starting a war on a nation because they decide to arm themselves while it is being surrounded by a superpower with bases on its border and who invaded a neighbor, who has MEK inside its country committing terrorists acts in order to agitate and foment another overthrow of their govt. Furthermore, our treasure and blood is to be used for two other nations--not for our own defense. The Soviet Union armed themselves to a much greater degree and we did not bomb them either.

Other than that, this is just your opinion. A NC opinion.
I'm not omitting what you said, I'm responding to one specific portion of it. I'm not responding to the rest of it so I don't mention it.

We can disagree about whether or not a particular military action is in the national interest, but you don't get to pose on the high ground of limited government conservatism just because you oppose that particular action.
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See , this is what I dont get .... think about it NeoCons are only a label for one aspect of the War Industry and political Zionism has its tools in every aspect within the various dualities . The bottom line for me , and it is really very obvious from where I see things is that the Liberal Techies who built up the Silicon based Empire are by far the more guilty of the bunch . And Lo and behold where do you see Concervative and Liberal meet ? Try the music scence and all the LSD/Mind altering Drug bands from the Dead to Phish onwards . Unix programmers and LSD . There were always people that on the outside are Liberal , pot smoking , sexually liberated LSD infused freaks that were critical to the foundations of what is Now high tech computer wizardry. You take a real close look at all these folks who have come along with Jobs and afterwards and what they have all done to get us to this moment in time where the NSA and Data Mining and GLobal control via machines is the game. They arent NeoCons , and NeoCons arent the ones pushing for Iran to be nuked , its the Jewish Political Zionists who run Israel. I wouldnt look towards the Neocon Goys as the really dangerous element here, its the current Administration that has fired so many military high ups .
Well,I am discussing the current rift in the GOP aka conservative movement such as men like DeMint nowadays saying this is not conservative position over at Heritage; or the Paleo-Cons, a good example being Pat Buchanan, who tend to be anti-war but definitely not in the pre-emptive aka offensive war camp. Especially when using offensive war is for progressive reasons. I liken this progressivism as the same basis for the destruction of our own state's sovereignty over the long-term.
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Boil it down. Are we scared or not scared?
I'm not. I know the their schtick. Play the fear card. That's a means of control. It doesn't work on me.
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You know , I have been paying attention since the rhetoric out of Iran really turned ugly and the Lebanon War broked out. Bottom line is if you go back 5 years from the present and simply tell the folks on a message board what is going to happen ... put on waders and pace yourself because they wont like what they hear. FOlks dont want to look at what their daily routines and livlihood is really built upon , and how quickly it can all be gone . What is left of the greatest generation , modern thinkers just wish they were all gone so they could completely rewrite history . They will answer for this sin and they will beg for mercy and there will none shown to them. Jesus Christ dont like His Story being edited.
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