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Old 10-29-2013, 07:38 PM  
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**The Obamacare Shitfest thread**

At the rate this thing is falling apart I figures it's time for a game-style thread for this abortion of a law.

This is what we get from lawmakers who don't even read the law...

1. Web site crashes...no one tested it
2. Insurance policies being canceled even after Obama stated multiple times you can keep your insurance if you like it
3. Valerie Jarrett says blame the insurance companies
4. Insurance companies say "we are just following the law"
5. HHS neutered the "Grandfather" clause with multiple regulations
6. Jay Carney tells us what the President "really meant" and that we were all just too stupid to "get it"
7. IRS knew as soon as 2010 that over 50% of individual insurance policy holders would lose coverage
8. Men are being forced to carry "maternity coverage"
9. Women who cannot get pregnant are being forced to carry "maternity coverage"
10. We keep getting told this is "affordable" yet deductible seem to be going up as well as premiums on balance
11. The Fed Gov won't tell us how many people have actually signed up
13. Obama knew nothing about any of it
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Old 10-29-2013, 09:06 PM   #31
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Read that again a little slower you dumb ****. Like the 2nd part of the sentence you underlined????

Frickin' moran
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Old 10-29-2013, 09:07 PM   #32
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So, we know you can't keep your insurance, now we see doctors are saying no to being part of ObamaCare…..

http://nypost.com/2013/10/29/docs-resisting-obamacare/

New York doctors are treating ObamaCare like the plague, a new survey reveals.

A poll conducted by the New York State Medical Society finds that 44 percent of MDs said they are not participating in the nation’s new health-care plan.

Another 33 percent say they’re still not sure whether to become ObamaCare providers.

Only 23 percent of the 409 physicians queried said they’re taking patients who signed up through health exchanges.

“This is so poorly designed that a lot of doctors are afraid to participate,” said Dr. Sam Unterricht, president of the 29,000-member organization. “There’s a lot of resistance. Doctors don’t know what they’re going to get paid.”
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Old 10-29-2013, 09:08 PM   #33
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Well it just started give it a couple of years and then we should have a better idea.
Let me ask you, Dirk, where do you see the economy in 3 years???

Part time work is on the rise...
Full time work in on the decline...
Wages are stagnant....
Fuel and food costs are on the rise...
Now insurance will cost more for everyone...


You know, it sounds good to say "yeah your insurance costs you $200 a month more but think of the coverage you are getting!!".....but where does that $200 come from, where does it go too and more importantly, where doesn't it go?
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Old 10-29-2013, 09:09 PM   #34
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Patteeu explained this well in another thread, everybody has to be in the same pool to make it cheaper for everyone. you can't have exceptions\allowances.

As far as my other point about grandfathered plans, the insurance companies aren't dumb. They are getting 30 million new customers thanks to Obama\Dems and they are going to make a ton of money by getting rid of those shitty plans and having the government subsidize them.
You really don't know a lot about the impact on insurance company profits do you. You are more like a lithe parrot of KCNitwit who also knows zip about it.
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Old 10-29-2013, 09:16 PM   #35
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Let me ask you, Dirk, where do you see the economy in 3 years???

Part time work is on the rise...
Full time work in on the decline...
Wages are stagnant....
Fuel and food costs are on the rise...
Now insurance will cost more for everyone...


You know, it sounds good to say "yeah your insurance costs you $200 a month more but think of the coverage you are getting!!".....but where does that $200 come from, where does it go too and more importantly, where doesn't it go?
I understand completely that is why I was for Medicare for all.
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Old 10-29-2013, 09:16 PM   #36
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Read that again a little slower you dumb ****. Like the 2nd part of the sentence you underlined????

Frickin' moran
Yes, you ****ing said IF A ****ING DOCTOR RETIRES IT WOULD CAUSE GRANDFATHERED STATUS TO BE LOST because it would change the list of available doctors.

This is not ****ing true and you are a ****ing idiot too ****ing dumb to even know what you wrote.
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Old 10-29-2013, 09:17 PM   #37
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Here is an interesting question do you think Catastrophic plans are the same as health insurance?
Absolutely. There isn't any question. My Warren Buffet owned company forced me into one.

I understand the first $6000 family medical dollars spent are on me. But hey, I get to fund my own HSA account tax free.
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Old 10-29-2013, 09:19 PM   #38
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Yes, you ****ing said IF A ****ING DOCTOR RETIRES IT WOULD CAUSE GRANDFATHERED STATUS TO BE LOST because it would change the list of available doctors.

This is not ****ing true and you are a ****ing idiot too ****ing dumb to even know what you wrote.
Cosmo, when you can find the integrity to admit Obama said something that he is on video saying multiple times come back and we will discuss.
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Here is an interesting question do you think Catastrophic plans are the same as health insurance?
Of course they are! In fact I would argue that if more people had such you would see less abuse of the system.
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You really don't know a lot about the impact on insurance company profits do you. You are more like a lithe parrot of KCNitwit who also knows zip about it.
I know currently their profit margins are slim. I also know they hand wrote most of Obamacare and have lobbied extensively for it. They are currently lobbying Congress\WH\HHS not to extend the enrollment deadline and support the individual mandate.
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So, we know you can't keep your insurance, now we see doctors are saying no to being part of ObamaCare…..

http://nypost.com/2013/10/29/docs-resisting-obamacare/

New York doctors are treating ObamaCare like the plague, a new survey reveals.

A poll conducted by the New York State Medical Society finds that 44 percent of MDs said they are not participating in the nation’s new health-care plan.

Another 33 percent say they’re still not sure whether to become ObamaCare providers.

Only 23 percent of the 409 physicians queried said they’re taking patients who signed up through health exchanges.

“This is so poorly designed that a lot of doctors are afraid to participate,” said Dr. Sam Unterricht, president of the 29,000-member organization. “There’s a lot of resistance. Doctors don’t know what they’re going to get paid.”
From same article:

"Doctors complained they’ve gotten the shaft for years even before ObamaCare.

“I get screwed from insurance companies already. I refuse to get screwed any longer,” one doctor said.


Amazing how Obamacare is blamed for all kinds of shit that pre-dates Obamacare.
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I know currently their profit margins are slim. I also know they hand wrote most of Obamacare and have lobbied extensively for it. They are currently lobbying Congress\WH\HHS not to extend the enrollment deadline and support the individual mandate.
That explains much.
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Cosmo, when you can find the integrity to admit Obama said something that he is on video saying multiple times come back and we will discuss.


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Old 10-29-2013, 09:27 PM   #44
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Absolutely. There isn't any question. My Warren Buffet owned company forced me into one.

I understand the first $6000 family medical dollars spent are on me. But hey, I get to fund my own HSA account tax free.
I was thinking more along the lines of the story I read the other day about the lady CBS interviewed on TV. She paid $53\month for her plan and come to find out it didn't cover hospitalization and literally only covered $50 of anything else.

She was complaining that she couldn't afford the new plans but how the **** could she afford her medical bills if she went to the hospital?
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Old 10-29-2013, 09:30 PM   #45
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I don't know how you came to that conclusion? Then again you are the only one on here that insisted that Obama didn't say what he was captured on video saying multiple times over multiple years.

In other words when you ignore documented, video evidence contradicting you then.....oh forget it...you just play your hack role
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